Originally posted by Blight
Who cares if he's A-Bomb? A win against Bruce Banner isn't a win against Hulk, likewise for Billy Batson and Captain Marvel. Rick Jones does not share feats with A-Bomb.Also, A-Bomb is the worst thing to happen to that character.
Currently Rick Jones is above the street level. The rest of your post means nothing.
Some of the prep gods would be near the top. Lex is a Superman villain but could be taken out by mid-streets. Doctor Who can rival abstracts when pushed, but in a non-prep scenario might get taken out by low metas (the more esoteric and powerful functions of his screwdriver would prevent a loss to a street-ish MA'er).
We also have a "civilian" tier, it's low street. Basically any character without skills is in there. There's not really a point to differentiating between Jarvis and, say, some powerless 30-year-old friend of a hero.
Originally posted by Blight
What feats outside of A-Bomb prove he's above street? If I write in a post "Rick Jones Vs. X", I don't mean A-Bomb.
Well I thought that we went with the most current version of the character. Rick Jones has the ability to turn into a high class 100 character, which does away with him being a Punisher level character. While you are technically correct in one way, you are attempting to ignore that Rick is no longer human, but that he is in fact a super human. When I say Cain Marko, do you picture him without the power of the Juggernaut?
Originally posted by StoicCain Marko obtained an artifact that makes him Juggernaut. Likewise when someone says Bruce Banner Vs. Someone, they usually mean a battle of wits. Not to mention Cain no longer has the power of Juggernaut... so by your estimation it would, in fact, mean he didn't have the power of Juggernaut.
Well I thought that we went with the most current version of the character. Rick Jones has the ability to turn into a high class 100 character, which does away with him being a Punisher level character. While you are technically correct in one way, you are attempting to ignore that Rick is no longer human, but that he is in fact a super human. When I say Cain Marko, do you picture him without the power of the Juggernaut?
My stating Rick Jones as a weak Street meant his fighting prowess, not his ability to change into a brick.
Originally posted by Blight
My stating Rick Jones as a weak Street meant his fighting prowess, not his ability to change into a brick.
It seemed more to me like you were covering the fact that you forgot that Rick was Abomb.
He is not a street level character, he is a super human. Spin it however you like. Rick is no longer a human level character. Just deal with it man. He was also trained by Captain America, and has some decent moves. In his human form he simply does not have the power to put a super human down. Just accept that Rick has power now. I'm questioning why instead of coming forward, and just saying whoops, I forgot that Rick was A-Bomb, that you choose to instead try to cover the gaff? By all means though continue to spin it.