Sasori won't beat Deidara because he has something lightning release puppet(though the chances of him having one is more likely than not). He'll win because has the better attacks, namely the Iron Sand with poison.
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-270-11/naruto/chapter-265.html
This statement also helps make Sasori look better, though I'll admit it can be called into question.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Sasori won't beat Deidara because he has something lightning release puppet(though the chances of him having one is more likely than not). He'll win because has the better attacks, namely the Iron Sand with poison.http://www.mangapanda.com/93-270-11/naruto/chapter-265.html
This statement also helps make Sasori look better, though I'll admit it can be called into question.
Depends how you see it. Of course I have no doubt Sasori clinches the victory if Deidara is affected by poison, but Sasori would have to definitely watch out for Deidara's bombs since Deidara can range spam him pretty good.
Even with the poison factor, Deidara could take him with him if he put the detonating clay in his chest again.
I'm not sure what to make of that statement though. Doesn't seem like he thinks he'd win if they went at it and not sure why he'd be lying either so...../shrug
Originally posted by Q99
Also, come to think of it, I wonder if lightning is one of magnet release's component elements.In that case, the 3rd Kazekage puppet will do.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Yet it never displayed anything close to being able to stop what Deidara dropped on the village. It got rocked by Sakuras punches and his shell got one shot by her punches. Seriously, stop.
When he was using them as large individual blunt objects, not all of it as a shield in front of what's also a tough shield.
It's silly to think that Sakura knocking away blocks of iron sand that each only made up a part of the iron sand he had out at the time is the same as using all the iron sand he has out as part of a single shield.
And if the iron sand is knocked away by the blast? It's still absorbing huge amounts of momentum in doing so.
Nor, of course, does it have to defend a huge area like Gaara did, it all only has to protect one person. He put out enough iron sand to protect just-him in deeper thickness than Gaara's sand shield, because that one had to spread out a lot and Sasori's can be a lot narrower, but thicker.
Finally I'll note there's a large difference between a direct hit, and shockwaves that have to penetrate not one but multiple defenses.
Even if the shell is broken too, that still doesn't take Sasori out.
Do you not see whats wrong with your argument? You're assuming things that didn't happen on panel or the anime. Why? This is the flimsiest argument I've ever seen. It amounts to "He probably can. Never seen him do it but he probably can."If he didn't display it/imply it, he doesn't have it. Period.
The iron sand shield is well, well within what he's shown. So he's got that.
And that he has many other human puppets with chakra powers, outright stated.
So yea, your argument there doesn't apply here. He has those capabilities.
Originally posted by Q99
When he was using them as large individual blunt objects, not all of it as a shield in front of what's also a tough shield.It's silly to think that Sakura knocking away blocks of iron sand that each only made up a part of the iron sand he had out at the time is the same as using all the iron sand he has out as part of a single shield.
And if the iron sand is knocked away by the blast? It's still absorbing huge amounts of momentum in doing so.
Nor, of course, does it have to defend a huge area like Gaara did, it all only has to protect one person. He put out enough iron sand to protect just-him in deeper thickness than Gaara's sand shield, because that one had to spread out a lot and Sasori's can be a lot narrower, but thicker.
Finally I'll note there's a large difference between a direct hit, and shockwaves that have to penetrate not one but multiple defenses.
Even if the shell is broken too, that still doesn't take Sasori out.
The iron sand shield is well, well within what he's shown. So he's got that.
And that he has many other human puppets with chakra powers, outright stated.
So yea, your argument there doesn't apply here. He has those capabilities.
I can't believe you even think you have an argument. This is ridiculous. It took all the sand in the village for Gaara to stop that blast. And you think the minute amount of iron sand that that puppet can even compare?
Yet I never even implied that. Jesus. He could have had twice the amount of Iron sand he had. So what? It's still not equal to what gaara had. Which is a lot more than soft beach sand btw. It can turn hard as rock when need be.
so? His puppet would still be blown open. And it wouldn't be huge, it'd do a little at best.
the blast would have destroyed the village. It was enormous. A thick layer of iron sand isn't stopping it. Especially since the shield gaara used to protect the village was very thick in itself. It's not like it was thin by any means.
Even if it managed to sop one bomb so what? As If deidara can't spam until his defenses drop. Sasori will run out of defenses before a well prepped Deidara like the one who fought Sasuke runs out of Clay.
I never argued that either. x2 stop trying to attribute arguments that don't correspond to me just so you can find something to argue.
great?
Never shown or implied? Then it doesn't matter.
😆 "I have no evidence. But I THINK he might have Deidara's weakness. Therefore I am right and you are wrong."
This is downright embarrassing. Ok I'll use that also: Deidara probably has expanding c3 explosives that start small and can weave their way into his armor and blow him up from the inside before they can even be detected because they are microscopic. Never seen him do it, but I think he can. Wow that was so much easier.