Originally posted by Cogito
Wow, lot of hate for TDKR...really don't understand why?
I don't know about anyone else but I don't hate it I just think it's nolans weakest film. I actually thought it was ok just not as amazing as some people. Putting the things I didn't like about it aside I found myself kind of board while watching it. Im actually surprised by all the love. Most people I talk to feel the same as I do about it.
Originally posted by BlackZero30xI agree with everything you've said here!
I don't know about anyone else but I don't hate it I just think it's nolans weakest film. I actually thought it was ok just not as amazing as some people. Putting the things I didn't like about it aside I found myself kind of board while watching it. Im actually surprised by all the love. Most people I talk to feel the same as I do about it.
Originally posted by CogitoI'm kind of unsure what I think of it at the moment. I don't hate it by any means! At the moment, I think I like it but I have to watch it a few more times before deciding how much. But tbh, I was really unsure. I found it quite hard to follow to be honest, but I think that's the way with me & CN films. The mre I watch them, the better I understand. Does anyone here agree?
I can totally understand people who think it's the worst of the trilogy. I don't know that I agree, but I just don't get the hate
Originally posted by Cogito
Wow, lot of hate for TDKR...really don't understand why?
I personally found TDKR very disappointing as a Batman movie, as a sequel to BB and TDK, and as a movie in general. As a movie in general, I found it disappointing as a movie because, although it's an ok film to watch, it is nowhere on the same level as BB and TDK and has tons of plot holes, tons of things that wouldn't make sense in this grounded world Nolan established with BB and TDK, and many scenes don't make sense when you put them together. The excuse that it shouldn't be overanalyzed is not valid in my book because both BB and TDK were overanalyzed to death and yet they still hold up as great movies - in fact, they got better and better the more you overanalyzed them, which isn't the case with TDKR. I don't think it's a good Batman movie because I find Batman to be very out of character for 3 reasons: 1) He quits being Batman for 8 years for no good reason 2) He intentionally kills Talia and 3) He quits being Batman at the end and passes the mantle to a rookie cop that doesn't even have 1/8 of the training, skills, and sources required to be Batman. And I don't think it's a good sequel because it contradicts and ignores a lot of the themes, plot points, character development, ideas, and messages that were set up in BB and TDK.
This is just my opinion in a nutshell on why TDKR is not that good. If you want me to fully explain my opinion and use examples from the movie, check out the Batman 3 thread. There are pages and pages of me there explaining this stuff in full detail. I'm too lazy to retype all of that 😄. lol
Originally posted by spidermanrocks
I personally found TDKR very disappointing as a Batman movie, as a sequel to BB and TDK, and as a movie in general. As a movie in general, I found it disappointing as a movie because, although it's an ok film to watch, it is nowhere on the same level as BB and TDK and has tons of plot holes, tons of things that wouldn't make sense in this grounded world Nolan established with BB and TDK, and many scenes don't make sense when you put them together. The excuse that it shouldn't be overanalyzed is not valid in my book because both BB and TDK were overanalyzed to death and yet they still hold up as great movies - in fact, they got better and better the more you overanalyzed them, which isn't the case with TDKR. I don't think it's a good Batman movie because I find Batman to be very out of character for 3 reasons: 1) He quits being Batman for 8 years for no good reason 2) He intentionally kills Talia and 3) He quits being Batman at the end and passes the mantle to a rookie cop that doesn't even have 1/8 of the training, skills, and sources required to be Batman. And I don't think it's a good sequel because it contradicts and ignores a lot of the themes, plot points, character development, ideas, and messages that were set up in BB and TDK.This is just my opinion in a nutshell on why TDKR is not that good. If you want me to fully explain my opinion and use examples from the movie, check out the Batman 3 thread. There are pages and pages of me there explaining this stuff in full detail. I'm too lazy to retype all of that 😄. lol
Well, tecnically to post it here, you didn't need to re-type it. U could just copy & paste it.