Given the comparison, I don't think it would be a series so much a single feature length film, and for as long as cinema has been an art form, as well as taking into account the changes over time culturally, it's unlikely one could be completely defined.
It would have to be a movie that can be understood regardless of the era of its production. Literally, a timeless work, as it were.
Originally posted by quanchi112
In terms of medieval battles and successful franchises nothing else comes close. Not even up for discussion.
Harry Potter isn't medieval, so you're shooting yourself in the foot on that one. I can easily admit that The Lord of the Rings certainly does have impressive displays, but it takes more than that to label something so haughtily.
Define your terms for success, it will make this easier. Off the top of my head of franchises as successful or more than either series (based on cinema):
Star Wars
Star Trek
Friday the 13th
Batman
Superman
That's five right there. The criteria I'm using to determine success in this case would be longevity. Each franchise I listed has been in the game longer than your two "holy grails" and still have the ability to keep going.
Now, that's not to say that Harry Potter or The Lord of the Rings can't achieve that status. They're already well on their way, in fact. That doesn't mean they could be considered the peak of the cinematic art form, though.
Originally posted by XanatosForeverMedieval in terms of swords, magic, monsters, wands. Absolutely is. Don't let the muggle world fool you.
Harry Potter isn't medieval, so you're shooting yourself in the foot on that one. I can easily admit that The Lord of the Rings certainly does have impressive displays, but it takes more than that to label something so haughtily.Define your terms for success, it will make this easier. Off the top of my head of franchises as successful or more than either series (based on cinema):
Star Wars
Star Trek
Friday the 13th
Batman
SupermanThat's five right there. The criteria I'm using to determine success in this case would be longevity. Each franchise I listed has been in the game longer than your two "holy grails" and still have the ability to keep going.
Now, that's not to say that Harry Potter or The Lord of the Rings can't achieve that status. They're already well on their way, in fact. That doesn't mean they could be considered the peak of the cinematic art form, though.
Hahahahahaha, none of the movies you named are medieval.
Game, set, match.
Harry Potter and Lotr are comparable most of the films you listed are not save Star Trek and Star Wars which is the holy grail of science fiction/fantasy combined.
You said this:
Originally posted by quanchi112
I offered you the holy grail of cinema and you turned it down. You'll regret it.
What I have issue with is this:
Originally posted by quanchi112
...the holy grail of cinema...
Your claim is that either series is the pinnacle of the art form that is cinema. That is what I'm disagreeing with.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Medieval in terms of swords, magic, monsters, wands. Absolutely is. Don't let the muggle world fool you.Hahahahahaha, none of the movies you named are medieval.
Game, set, match.
Harry Potter and Lotr are comparable most of the films you listed are not save Star Trek and Star Wars which is the holy grail of science fiction/fantasy combined.
It's high fantasy overlayed in modern day. You honestly think that putting Harry as a orphan child in the Dark Ages would've made this the same story?
No, because your claim, as I pointed above, wasn't focused on medieval themes. If you want to change your stance and say The Lord of the Rings is one of the best fantasy/medieval franchises of all time, then I'm not really seeing a problem with it. Pick something and stick to it.
Comparable to what? Alfred Hitchcock? Charlie Chaplin? Uwe Boll? What are you trying to say here? I could give a rat's ass which of the Star children counts as the top of their proverbial heap. I'm looking at this with a much broader perspective, thanks to your original comment. Get on my level, quan.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Lord of the Rings is better than all five of the series you mentioned.Lol at Friday the 13th's placement on the list.
That's subjective, with some exceptions, but it's not really the point I'm trying to make.