Originally posted by ares834The Boss plain humiliated and sonned Big Boss throughout the entire game, but Big Boss was progressively doing better. I think it is quite possible Big Boss's CQC/overall prowess simply got better as he got more experience.
Sure, but he still should have inherited some of BB's strength. Plus, we don't know if Grey Fox even hit Solid, thus nullifying the problem of how Solid survived.Anyway, back to the Boss, once again she was able to, at times, out match Big Boss. That should put her beyond Grey Fox assuming BB's H2H didn't, say, triple in effectiveness between MGS3 and and Peace Walker or MGS4.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Snake beat Vamp, whose feats are far and away better than Gray Fox's.
Snake didn't beat Vamp. He temporarily downed him(in gameplay, not cutscenes) long enough to inject him with the serum that cancelled out his nanomachines. It was Raiden who beat him, and even then the only reason he won that fight is because he caught Vamp off guard when he ejected the knives from him. Vamp had that battle won, even though he was normal and had taken half a dozen mortal wounds by that point.
And before that, most of Vamp's feats have been speed and beating the crap out of Raiden.
Originally posted by NemeBro
He got him in an armbar and injected him with something to null his healing factor.And Raiden would ****ing destroy Gray Fox. Gray Fox struggles to stop one Metal Gear from crushing him, Raiden judo flips them.
He got him as soon as he stood up and began healing. I'll give him that, but that's not what took him down, it was Raiden taking advantage of him not having a healing factor and getting lucky at the end of a fight very much in Vamp's favor, despite him no longer having a healing factor or as enhanced stats as before.
And if I'm not mistaken, Fox was missing one arm when he stopped the foot.
As for Raiden, he judo flips Gekko's, which are considered by Kojima to be jeeps compared to Rex being a tank and Ray being an amphibious assault vehicle. They're a lot lighter than Rex, who is 500+tons, they're probably barely in the middle double digits since they aren't fully mechanical.
Originally posted by KingD19lol
As for Raiden, he judo flips Gekko's, which are considered by Kojima to be jeeps compared to Rex being a tank and Ray being an amphibious assault vehicle. They're a lot lighter than Rex, who is 500+tons, they're probably barely in the middle double digits since they aren't fully mechanical.
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Originally posted by NemeBro
lol1:40.
Ugh... Why they make Raiden of all people so uber I will never understand.