"Final Form" Onslaught vs White Phoenix Jean Grey

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She clearly did not have the phoenix force in the Onslaught saga. Given that Onslaught was trying to persuade Jean to join his cause, offer her to rekindle he lost power to the Phoenix Force.

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Originally posted by mastagambit
Even with Full PF at her disposal what is to stop Onslaught from taking her powers as his own?
He has Franklin and Nate powers to boost,and the fight takes place on the astral plane where he was 'born'. Onslaught should be more versed than any version of Jean battling on the astral plane.
And for people commenting that she did not regain the PF until Morrison's run then they need to read Uncanny X-Men 381 when they fought the Neo she had access to the PF.Not some psychic manifestation or Phoenix Echo,but the Phoenix Force.
She even made the raptor appear and demonstrated the powers to Cable. This was in Claremont's run.

Um no, once again Jean Grey manifesting a PF raptor is not the same as Jean Grey having the actual PF, people get confused because she can manifest that raptor however it is not the actual PF.

She must die to gain access to the actual PF, per NXM Grant Morrison's run the PF is in Jean's blood which is why she can manifest the raptor, its also why her powers at baseline has cosmic reserves again this power can appear fiery and as the PF raptor but only through death can she re-connect to the Phoenix Conscious-ness in the WHR thus becoming "The Phoenix". The Phoenix is not the raptor its really a force and a state of being its why in the original DPS she had to died to be reborn and again in NXM Logan had to "kill" her to become "The Phoenix.

So WPoTC wins