Originally posted by Cogito
Nekron is "the empty space between atoms", aka a void, which would really phuck up MJJ.By default this fight should take place in a neutral universe though, so who knows. We've never seen a reality/matter manipulator fight Nekron.
Read MJJ's bio and see how he was beaten:
"taken to a void where there was nothing to manipulate"
That's what Nekron is, "the empty space between planets and atoms".
I think Nekron takes him.
^^You do realize that vacuum is basically the empty space between atoms and planets ? I don't see Jaspers being powerless in a simple vacuum .
The void which Fury took Jaspers to on the other hand was UnSpace , an interdimensional void , where its own universe once existed . It was basically a place where LITERALLY nothing existed(no space/time , no matter/energy , no reality at all) for MJJ to manipulate .
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Hey there Zop. I'm just passing through friends.
Jaspers can use anything imaginable as a form of defense/attack so long as they're withIN Reality.
He won't be able to take Jaspers to "un-space"
as Fury did because Fury was immune to Jaspers' Warp.
(in the Jaspers Warp saga nothing else was)
That aside, Jaspers getting defeated in "un-space" was PIS
as Illadelph and some of us concluded.
Because MJJ was reality himself,
so he could've at-least continued defending himself via manipulating his own person.
Our final thought was that the story had to end,
but how do you defeat "God?"
... in comics, it's simple ... PIS all over em.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^^You do realize that vacuum is basically the empty space between atoms and planets ? I don't see Jaspers being powerless in a simple vacuum .
Wrong, even in space there's still a few hydrogen atoms, in the "vacuum" of space. The writer made it clear, Nekron is the EMPTY SPACE BETWEEN PLANETS AND ATOMS". See the part I underlined? It don't get much clearer than that.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Depending on whether Nekron truly is DC's equivalent of Oblivion , I can see him taking this fight . Otherwise , its a close battle imo , with MJJ eventually coming out on top .
Originally posted by zopzopWrong, even in space there's still a few hydrogen atoms, in the "vacuum" of space. The writer made it clear, Nekron is the EMPTY SPACE BETWEEN PLANETS AND ATOMS". See the part I underlined? It don't get much clearer than that.
Anyways , based on the fact that he is a Death/Oblivion hybrid Abstract , I see him taking this battle .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Yup , and the space between said atoms IS vacuum . Thanks for proving my point .
http://science.howstuffworks.com/dictionary/physics-terms/vacuum-info.htm
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/621344/vacuum
Originally posted by zopzop
Genius there is NO perfect vaccum, not even in outer space (there are STILL hydrogen atoms there), but Nekron is the literal VOID between them. So MJJ wouldn't be able to do anything to him!
How exactly do you manage to equate that to a post-nullification void(where literally nothing exists) is beyond me .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
"Genius" , that is exactly what I am saying . The empty space(between atoms and celestial bodies like planets) in which no matter exists IS vacuum .How exactly do you manage to equate that to a post-nullification void(where literally nothing exists) is beyond me .
Vacuum, a space in which there is no matter. In a strict sense, there is no such thing as a vacuum—even the virtually empty regions of the universe between the galaxies contain some matter.
EDIT : missing word
Originally posted by zopzopthere is NO perfect vaccum, not even in outer space
(there are STILL hydrogen atoms there),but Nekron is the literal VOID between them.
There are things called 'virtual particles' that pervade all of space
and you can see their effect in things like magnetism.
Reality 238 was re-arranged from having space/time/matter,
to having the absolute opposite.
That is a true vacuum. (literally nothing)
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That aside, how does Nekron engage if he's made of nothing?
Originally posted by Mr Master
There is no such thing as 'absolute vacuum' between anything though.There are things called 'virtual particles' that pervade all of space
and you can see their effect in things like magnetism.Reality 238 was re-arranged from having space/time/matter,
to having the absolute opposite.That is a true vacuum. (literally nothing)
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That aside, how does Nekron engage if he's made of nothing?
Originally posted by zopzopI'm guessing the same way Death, Oblivion, Unbeing, etc..do?
That's when MJJ can perform, otherwise,
MJJ can't do anything to an object that embodies absolute nothingness,
just like said object would be just as harmless to MJJ,
since it's well ... nothing.
As for Oblivion, this is why he needs his own Realm of absolute "nothingness."
Because anywhere/everywhere withIN Infinity there is something. (likewise at scales so small where it would appear to be nothing)
If I'm not mistaken,
Oblivion resides at the void-like edge of Infinity where "Space" is ever expanding into.
Originally posted by zopzop
Do you even READ the stuff you link to? From your own link :That's not what Nekron is, he is the LITERAL EMPTY SPACE between atoms and planets. Not the the "virtually" empty space. THE EMPTY SPACE.
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Anyways , do YOU read the stuff I post ? The definition very clearly states that vacuum is space with NO MATTER in it . Outer space can't be called vacuum because it does contain matter(in the form of planets, stars , galaxies etc.) . It is either vacuum or not vacuum . Your definition of Nekron makes him a vacuum ala empty space between atoms and planets .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I know a word to describe people like you , but I am not going to use it because that would come under member bashing .Anyways , do YOU read the stuff I post ? The definition very clearly states that vacuum is space with NO MATTER in it . Outer space can't be called vacuum because it does contain matter(in the form of planets, stars , galaxies etc.) . It is either vacuum or not vacuum . Your definition of Nekron makes him a vacuum ala empty space between atoms and planets .
