Superman vs Avengers

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Originally posted by Delta1938
But theoretically possible but out of character arguments are only allowed for Marvel.

Aww shucks

Originally posted by iceman24567
Aww shucks

🙁 I know. So Superman can't do the blitzes them before they can blink, or vibrate his hand bursting them, or heat vision lobotomize any of them, or teleport the planet they're on to another dimension(after vibrating Thor's head to burst), or other stuff.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's OOC for thor and which he hasn't done on panel ever. How about superman vibrates his hand to destroy thor's body ala hank henshaw at superspeed?

So what has current hulk has done to show he's not going to get ktfo against superman?

What has Superman done to make you think he can beat Hulk?

Mjoinir naturally absorbs ambient energy so no its not out of character for Thor to hit someone with his hammer, if Mjoinir can absorb enough energy in a single swing to hurt the phoenix there is a good chance Thor can penetrate superman's veil of invulnerability.

If I wanted to go out of character there is bfr into a red star core or attacking the soul directly.

Originally posted by Delta1938
🙁 I know. So Superman can't do the blitzes them before they can blink, or vibrate his hand bursting them, or heat vision lobotomize any of them, or teleport the planet they're on to another dimension(after vibrating Thor's head to burst), or other stuff.

When has any of this happened on panel?

Originally posted by carver9
What has Superman done to make you think he can beat Hulk?

Plenty of stuff. But I'm not familiar with current Hulk, but I don't think you're the one to ask.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Mjoinir naturally absorbs ambient energy so no its not out of character for Thor to hit someone with his hammer, if Mjoinir can absorb enough energy in a single swing to hurt the phoenix there is a good chance Thor can penetrate superman's veil of invulnerability.

If I wanted to go out of character there is bfr into a red star core or attacking the soul directly.

Not something I've ever seen without him actively using it to absorb energy. Sounds like you're stretching things to make your argument.

Also, if we're going to argue out of character, there's nothing that could really be done against Superman exploiting his speed to backdoor violating levels.

Originally posted by carver9
When has any of this happened on panel?

Granted he didn't actually lobotomize Manchester Black, but another Kryptonian did and ACTION COMICS #775 was about just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. As for vibrating.....

Teleporting another planet?

http://s647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/BFR%20A%20PLANET%20VIA%20SUPER%20SPEED/

Originally posted by Delta1938
Ironically, I think his best healing factor feat(out of the ones I have) is at night with him having Kryptonite in his blood stream.

How about the time he was a frail skeleton and he got himself thrown out of a space ship and in direct view of the sun and he was back to full power in seconds.

I have no problem thinking that Mjolnir could absorb energy or harm Superman with a strike. He's strong enough to damage Superman physically with his bare hands and Mjolnir's potent enough to do even more damage (to say nothing of its mystical properties).

But I don't think Thor is going to absorb yellow solar radiation from Superman conventionally or through prolonged hammer strikes. 😐

I've only seen thor forcibly drain his opponents' energies when they were radiating energy. Superman doesn't do that so I doubt he could drain him like that. Now ripping the energy out through his heat vision is another story...

Originally posted by Delta1938
Plenty of stuff. But I'm not familiar with current Hulk, but I don't think you're the one to ask.

Not something I've ever seen without him actively using it to absorb energy. Sounds like you're stretching things to make your argument.

Also, if we're going to argue out of character, there's nothing that could really be done against Superman exploiting his speed to backdoor violating levels.

I don't think you are the best one to ask about Superman, that's why I don't quote your post.

Thor could easily absorb Kal's heat vision, yeah.

Anything beyond that is unlikely and ridiculous. About as much as Superman ripping out Thor's heart or some other bullshit.

I thought supermans invulnerable veil is based off solar energy? Someone posted a scan in an old Magneto vs Superman thread that once you dissipate that field he is a lot more vulnerable.

His entire powerset is based off of solar energy. He certainly doesn't have that bio-field aura that contributes to his (relative) invincibility anymore; he's just extremely physically durable.

In any case, it's a moot point as Mjolnir doesn't have to do anything remotely exotic to be capable of seriously harming Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
What has Superman done to make you think he can beat Hulk?

Another lulz.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Mjoinir naturally absorbs ambient energy so no its not out of character for Thor to hit someone with his hammer, if Mjoinir can absorb enough energy in a single swing to hurt the phoenix there is a good chance Thor can penetrate superman's veil of invulnerability.

If I wanted to go out of character there is bfr into a red star core or attacking the soul directly.


Stop pulling out things out of your behind. Mjolnir doesn't absorb ambient energy automatically. If superman can split soulfire darkseid in half who shrugged Source/ALE's attacks off, he splits thor in half too. You can't win against superman in high end feats kid. Superman has been in red suns before, eradicator tossed him in it twice. More powerful beings than thor have tried to attack superman's soul and got beat. How about superman just punches thor to death?

Originally posted by Diesldude
How about the time he was a frail skeleton and he got himself thrown out of a space ship and in direct view of the sun and he was back to full power in seconds.

I don't really think of that as a healing feat to be honest.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't think you are the best one to ask about Superman, that's why I don't quote your post.

This coming from the guy who thinks WB Hulk is on another level compared to Superboy Prime. Although it's technically true, but not what you think. More like Hulk's frail, wheelchair bound elderly woman to Superboy Prime's Anderson Silva.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Silva#Championships_and_accomplishments

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Silva#Mixed_martial_arts_record

Originally posted by pym-ftw
I thought supermans invulnerable veil is based off solar energy? Someone posted a scan in an old Magneto vs Superman thread that once you dissipate that field he is a lot more vulnerable.

The aura seemed more an excuse to protect his clothing since after the Byrne-reboot, his costume was no longer indestructible. I wonder how exactly Ma sewed it.

By the way, Carv. I edited one of my posts to answer a question about stuff I argued Superman can do, adding scans, that I hadn't initially seen. Just in case ya missed it.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
I thought supermans invulnerable veil is based off solar energy? Someone posted a scan in an old Magneto vs Superman thread that once you dissipate that field he is a lot more vulnerable.

Not anymore. How's thor doing that again? You think that thor has as much control over EM-spectrum like magneto or Dr. Polaris?

@Delta...

I'm not here to argue with you buddy. As for your scans, that's Henshaw, a Cyborg. That's like me posting a pic of Hulk turning Onslaught to dust thinking that he will do the same to Superman. What in the hell.

Originally posted by carver9
@Delta...

I'm not here to argue with you buddy. As for your scans, that's Henshaw, a Cyborg. That's like me posting a pic of Hulk turning Onslaught to dust thinking that he will do the same to Superman. What in the hell.

Take another look at the scans. See when he's vibrated to shattered destruction, how there's lots and lots of red and blue pieces? Take a look at him before he goes all explodey. See any mechanical parts that are red and blue?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not anymore. How's thor doing that again? You think that thor has as much control over EM-spectrum like magneto or Dr. Polaris?

No but he can absorb and disrupt it

Originally posted by pym-ftw
No but he can absorb and disrupt it

But that would not only be out of character for Thor against the types of opponent Superman would fall under, but would require knowledge Thor does not possess. Unless I'm mistaken?