Superman. Simply too fast for them to affect, perceive and react to. No matter what weakness exploitation methods they come up with.
The only way they can win is if Tony can hack the time-travel tech into some sort of mobile time stopping device and literally capture Superman in-time.
Also, Superman could freeze the lot of them in one go.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
He currently has it, that's like asking batman how many bat-a-rangs he can make in a day.A beam capable of hurting a cosmic entity, not able to hurt superman?
That was specifically designed to hurt phoenix. Xorn did better with a planet-wide EMP and a shiar laser scattered PF too.
Originally posted by Uriel005
Problem I'm seeing with that is that superman can escape and recharge faster than they could probably drain him. Once he sees the threat he'd probably try to finish it quickly.Out of character he could fry their circuitry with heat vision.
Team could take it but I just don't see it happening.
Hence why they need to find a way to filter the energy and prevent it from powering him in the first place.
Tony can absorb the heat vision and use it to power up.
Originally posted by Cogito
Tony fans are really reaching into the "he pulls some bullshit out of his ass but I can't really fully support this argument any more than that" zone. kinda
Hmm lets see;
General knowledge. He's powered by the sun, kryptonite is a weakness.
One day of prep, one of Marvel's greatest minds.
Not a Tony fan, but what exactly is anyone pulling out of their ass here? Cause so far most have mentioned plausible methods based upon general knowledge.
Originally posted by dmills
Hmm lets see;General knowledge. He's powered by the sun, kryptonite is a weakness.
One day of prep, one of Marvel's greatest minds.
Not a Tony fan, but what exactly is anyone pulling out of their ass here? Cause so far most have mentioned plausible methods based upon general knowledge.
Solar battery isn't necessarily common knowledge.
Let me summarize this thread
Tony fan: He makes Kryptonite
Supes fan: Alternate universe K doesn't work
Tony fan: He leeches his energy
Supes fan: He'd have to block the sun too
Tony fan: He blocks the sun
Supes fan: There are other energy sources too
Tony fan: He pulls out a big gun
Supes fan: That gun had a specific application against a specific being, and didn't really work.
Tony fan: He absorbs Supes HV
Me: facepalm2
btw, not railing on you specifically here, dmills
Originally posted by dmills
Hmm lets see;General knowledge. He's powered by the sun, kryptonite is a weakness.
One day of prep, one of Marvel's greatest minds.
Not a Tony fan, but what exactly is anyone pulling out of their ass here? Cause so far most have mentioned plausible methods based upon general knowledge.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Solar battery isn't necessarily common knowledge.
If it's not then they're in trouble, because nobody's making kryptonite here.
Originally posted by Cogito
Let me summarize this threadTony fan: He makes Kryptonite
Supes fan: Alternate universe K doesn't work
Tony fan: He leeches his energy
Supes fan: He'd have to block the sun too
Tony fan: He blocks the sun
Supes fan: There are other energy sources too
Tony fan: He pulls out a big gun
Supes fan: That gun had a specific application against a specific being, and didn't really work.
Tony fan: He absorbs Supes HV
Me: facepalm2btw, not railing on you specifically here, dmills
Lol. Actually you kinda are since I made quite a few of those arguments.
The heat vision thing was a response to them being blasted by heat vision. Iron man has some pretty good absorption feats so that's what I was getting at.
The leeching/Filtering thing was me as well. Not blocking the sun, but making a device that blocks out em radiation so that as he's being leeched he can't easily re-up his power.
Kryptonite and the Phoenix thing. Well, that wasn't me lol. I don't believe for one second that they'd make kryptonite, so I went with the most plausible path to victory. But if the solar powered thing isn't general knowledge then the team is in trouble.
Oh and the speed advantage is nigh insurmountable.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Solar battery isn't necessarily common knowledge.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Deducting that a guy who sundips to heal and get stronger is infact powered by by solar energy isn't out of Tony's wheel house. Granted his best feats are always with other geniuses, but I think he should be able to see a correlation.
How would Tony know he sundips to heal?
Originally posted by pym-ftw
It would be a hell of a distraction, or if tony adds Nanites capable of converting solar energy or even just blocking solar energy it very capable of tiring superman