Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You are? I kinda missed that 😛What? I thought that story with the thanos copter was 100% canon... 😕
Which villains did Spidey own? Except the original Sabes? Daken had him at his mercy and there was a plot device involved, so don't bring that up. Silver Samurai has a better track record against him than vice versa.
IF did not own Gorgon, period 😠
Rhino punched Logan 2 times, not three... and Wolverine liked it so much he suggested a sparring next time they meet 😂 Kinda like with Roughouse. Can we really blame it on Rhino's CIS? Or just low damage soak? A cut like that could've very well put him into shock... it definitely caused some major bleeding.
Slash-for-slash fight would be good with bone claw Wolverine. Lizard never had his tail cut off before... it's different from being safely separated via a reptile defense mechanism.
But seriously, we've been over the whole electric generator thing, might have as well been a cushion instead, wouldn't have changed a thing. SM kicked his ass the second he remembered he's got ss. ST yes but that's a meh. SS never defeated Spider-man in a straight up fight. Once with a sneak attack, the other with a lucky bfr while SM was not looking for a fight. In a stright up fight Spider-man danced around him while mocking his attempts to land a hit.
Lizard can take a harpoon through the skull but for some reason forgets how to walk because someone cuts off his tail? PISy IMO. Same applies for the Puma fight. Who else was there? Speed Deamon. Also that one fight with Venom where Brock for some reason wasn't durable enough to walk away from a 100-foot fall. Rhino is no better than original ST. Am I forgetting someone?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWThat's what ive been telling you! Embrace your Lord and Saivor!
It's the first time my HP didn't reach zero after you posting that shit... ermmBlood Brothers of Mutual Self-Admiration... 😘 Yeah, I should look for a new fav character...
Originally posted by SamZED
Wow.. I was so drunk when I started this argument. Sorry about that (For starting the argument I mean. Not for being drunk, that I do not regret at all).But seriously, we've been over the whole electric generator thing, might have as well been a cushion instead, wouldn't have changed a thing. SM kicked his ass the second he remembered he's got ss. ST yes but that's a meh. SS never defeated Spider-man in a straight up fight. Once with a sneak attack, the other with a lucky bfr while SM was not looking for a fight. In a stright up fight Spider-man danced around him while mocking his attempts to land a hit.
Lizard can take a harpoon through the skull but for some reason forgets how to walk because someone cuts off his tail? PISy IMO. Same applies for the Puma fight. Who else was there? Speed Deamon. Also that one fight with Venom where Brock for some reason wasn't durable enough to walk away from a 100-foot fall. Rhino is no better than original ST. Am I forgetting someone?
No problem.
I can't agree with that. Being tossed into that generator definitely took its toll on him. If not for that, he shouldn't even register being smashed to the ground, based on his feats.
He WAS looking for a fight, he was chasing Viper who is arguably Harada's superior in martial arts 😬 And he knew very well that she worked with Samurai, attempted to punch him and paid for that big time. Just because the fight was really short doesn't mean it doesn't count 'cause you don't like it.
You mean when he and Natasha teamed on SS? Because in their last fight Parker barely won...
You're forgetting plenty. Brock has trouble tanking falls from great heights... or great impacts. As a Spiderman fan, you should know that. Hello, bell tower? Train?
Originally posted by SamZED
That's what ive been telling you! Embrace your Lord and Saivor!PS: Not talking about the creepy beard guy...
Not gonna pick him.
I'm joining the Church of Rand.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No problem.I can't agree with that. Being tossed into that generator definitely took its toll on him. If not for that, he shouldn't even register being smashed to the ground, based on his feats.
He WAS looking for a fight, he was chasing Viper who is arguably Harada's superior in martial arts 😬 And he knew very well that she worked with Samurai, attempted to punch him and paid for that big time. Just because the fight was really short doesn't mean it doesn't count 'cause you don't like it.
You mean when he and Natasha teamed on SS? Because in their last fight Parker barely won...
You're forgetting plenty. Brock has trouble tanking falls from great heights... or great impacts. As a Spiderman fan, you should know that. Hello, bell tower? Train?
It I don't see how it's
Not gonna pick him.I'm joining the Church of Rand.
He wasn't looking for a fight with the Samurai. Harada wasn't his goal but a distraction he had no time for. It's a win for SS nontheless but there's a difference. Still a BFR. Not something to be particularly proud of. Yes im talking about the team up with Natasha. SS simply wasn't fast enough to connect. The last fight lasted like two pages and it only took SM one good hit, granted he had to work for it but it still was a solid win. The whole "Oh I barely survived and so tired!" thing is a typical complimentary speech winners give in order to make their opponents look good. Example - Superman saying that Thor is the toughest opponent he's ever faced after casually oneshotting him in that crossover.
What bell tower? Don't remember. Brock has fallen from a skyscrapper before headfirst with Spider-man on top, just knocked the wind out of him. And even that can be concidered as a low showing. Same goes for the train. Any reason why someone who can laugh at Spider-man's most powerful hits, casually take class 100+ punches or anti-tank missles to the chest should get knocked out because he jumpred from a waterfall. That was PIS.
If you truely worshipped Lord Rand you'd never doubt his victory over Gorgon.
Originally posted by SamZED
But that same generator barely stung Spider-man who jumped directly into the charge. Daken who has a healing factor got tagged a little. Judging by the art and writing it was Spider-man's punch that knocked Daken out. It can be argued that the generator contributed a little but its a stretch to say that Spider-man needed a plot device to win. Tossing Daken at the nearest wall would've probably been more effective than a small electric sting. And there isn't a reason why a combo from Spider-man can't knock Daken out especially concidering he didn't expect the attack coming. He thought Spider-man was done.He wasn't looking for a fight with the Samurai. Harada wasn't his goal but a distraction he had no time for. It's a win for SS nontheless but there's a difference. Still a BFR. Not something to be particularly proud of. Yes im talking about the team up with Natasha. SS simply wasn't fast enough to connect. The last fight lasted like two pages and it only took SM one good hit, granted he had to work for it but it still was a solid win. The whole "Oh I barely survived and so tired!" thing is a typical complimentary speech winners give in order to make their opponents look good. Example - Superman saying that Thor is the toughest opponent he's ever faced after casually oneshotting him in that crossover.
What bell tower? Don't remember. Brock has fallen from a skyscrapper before headfirst with Spider-man on top, just knocked the wind out of him. And even that can be concidered as a low showing. Same goes for the train. Any reason why someone who can laugh at Spider-man's most powerful hits, casually take class 100+ punches or anti-tank missles to the chest should get knocked out because he jumpred from a waterfall. That was PIS.
If you truely worshipped Lord Rand you'd never doubt his victory over Gorgon.
Actually I'm pretty sure it was Spiderman who just got tagged a little by electricity... Daken on the other hand got tossed into it with class 10 strength... so I disagree. If we were to argue that fight further, I'd mention Daken sheathing his claws mid-fight or him not using pheromones to the full effect, something that Parker's SS would not save him from.
A BFR and a flash knockout, all in one. Pretty good for me, nothing to be ashamed of, especially considering that it was achieved with one-shot 😎
I'd say SS was pretty worn out by then, having survived getting smashed by SHIELD's mini-jet and fighting with Black Widow. He's become faster since that appearance anyway.
But he DID barely survive in that last fight... miraculously avoiding getting his neck snapped... and Shang-Chi was there allowing him for a nice cheapshot.
The bell tower on which Brock webbed up black costume Spidey, but Pete freed himself and made him fall. TASM #300.
2:55 - 3:16
YouTube video
I hope it hurts 😛
The Lizard vs either Wolverine or Sabretooth, would be like a bad chemical reaction, which would cause Wolverine or Creed to go berserk, based on the Lizards feral nature, and in doing so he would be beaten severely. Scorpion is simply too stupid to be able to defeat Wolverine, and would end up being quicly stripped of all offensive weaponry and also lose.
Team 2 8/10
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Actually I'm pretty sure it was Spiderman who just got tagged a little by electricity... Daken on the other hand got tossed into it with class 10 strength... so I disagree. If we were to argue that fight further, I'd mention Daken sheathing his claws mid-fight or him not using pheromones to the full effect, something that Parker's SS would not save him from.A BFR and a flash knockout, all in one. Pretty good for me, nothing to be ashamed of, especially considering that it was achieved with one-shot 😎
I'd say SS was pretty worn out by then, having survived getting smashed by SHIELD's mini-jet and fighting with Black Widow. He's become faster since that appearance anyway.
But he DID barely survive in that last fight... miraculously avoiding getting his neck snapped... and Shang-Chi was there allowing him for a nice cheapshot.
The bell tower on which Brock webbed up black costume Spidey, but Pete freed himself and made him fall. TASM #300.
2:55 - 3:16
YouTube video
I hope it hurts 😛
Wasnt a cheapshot. Shang ran away, Spider-man attacked. And that attack didnt do anything eitherway. Also Pete's gotten faster as well so its a two ways street. Point still stands. No BFR, no cheapshots Spider-man dominated.😎
The video's not working for me for some reason but if iirc Brock used most of the symbiote to tie up Parker and it weakened him. Maybe I remember it wrong even then its an exception of the rule. Its not Gargan afterall, Brock bitchslaps classic Juggernaut before breakfast.😛
