Originally posted by BUSTER1
B'cos hulk ain't faster than Spiderman. Superhuman reflexes is part of Parker's powerset. This has been established for decades. For Hulk to be considered faster than him, means that Hulk has super reflexes as well.
We all know that when the Thing fights Hulk, he is outmatched by a big margin power wise. Ben still gives Hulk a fight however, with one of the reasons being his faster speed. Does this mean Ben Grimm has faster reflexes than Spiderman??
Originally posted by -Pr-
No.
Yes, its been proven on panel. His fights against Logan, X23, and Beast is proof of this. Wolverine alone has had good showing against Spiderman via speed and Hulk grabbed Wolverine clean out of the air after a blitz. Then, lets not forget Spiderman showing against X23. Her speed gave her an advantage whereas when she fought Hulk, she got snatched twice by him without having an counter against it. I can't picture Spiderman doing any of them like that.WWH is faster.
@Buster...
When did Ben give WWH trouble?
Originally posted by Endless Mike
For a rare occasion I agree with carver. Hulk is physically faster than Spider-Man.Hulk can punch people into space, which means he has to punch them at at least escape velocity (around Mach 33). Spider-Man can't punch that fast.
I don't think it's necessarily the same thing.
Originally posted by carver9
Yes, its been proven on panel. His fights against Logan, X23, and Beast is proof of this. Wolverine alone has had good showing against Spiderman via speed and Hulk grabbed Wolverine clean out of the air after a blitz. Then, lets not forget Spiderman showing against X23. Her speed gave her an advantage whereas when she fought Hulk, she got snatched twice by him without having an counter against it. I can't picture Spiderman doing any of them like that.WWH is faster.@Buster...
When did Ben give WWH trouble?
ABC logic = bad carter.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think it's necessarily the same thing.ABC logic = bad carver.
I corrected your error for you, seen where you made a mistake.
Uuuummm, I don't need to just post fights, I can easily post Hulk slapping multiple of missiles out of the air during WWH but that would be to easy. TOO EASY.
Originally posted by carver9
I corrected your error for you, seen where you made a mistake.Uuuummm, I don't need to just post fights, I can easily post Hulk slapping multiple of missiles out of the air during WWH but that would be to easy. TOO EASY.
You didn't correct anything, carter.
Swatting missiles doesn't make him faster than Spidey reflex wise. Fast, sure, but not FASTER.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
For a rare occasion I agree with carver. Hulk is physically faster than Spider-Man.Hulk can punch people into space, which means he has to punch them at at least escape velocity (around Mach 33). Spider-Man can't punch that fast.
Actually that has more to do with transfer of momentum than speed. Hulk is much more massive than spidey so he has to punch with less speed/force than someone smaller to get him to move the same after
Originally posted by Silent MasterHe used lightning on Wolverine after going hth with him first, probably did the same with Cap, but I don't know what fight you're talking about, so post it.
Thor has used lightning against both Captain America and Wolverine, so the "he won't use his powers against street level characters" argument isn't going to work
Now you're comparing Storm to Spiderman? All of Storm's attacks are long range.
Between our quick lists of fights, Thor has fought everyone who fights in cqc with melee attacks first, aside from Cap, maybe. And he destroyed the ground against QS because he was too fast for him to be touched.
You didn't even prove your case, why are you trying to act like you won?
Originally posted by Mindset
Now you're comparing Storm to Spiderman? All of Storm's attacks are long range.Between our quick lists of fights, Thor has fought everyone who fights in cqc with melee attacks first, aside from Cap, maybe. And he destroyed the ground against QS because he was too fast for him to be touched.
You didn't even prove your case, why are you trying to act like you won?
Isn't that PIS....instead of CIS? them just trying to make the fight look good instead of Thor long range owning short term opponents?
Originally posted by Silent MasterExcept that you didn't.
I've established that Spider-man being a street level character wont stop Thor from using his powers in the fight, like you claimed on the last page.
You named 2 street level fighters: Wolverine and Cap.
He fought Wolverine in melee before using powers, and that's because he couldn't put him down. Supposedly he used powers against Cap, but you didn't post any proof.
In any case, I've established that Thor likes to start fights with hth.
Originally posted by Mindset
Except that you didn't.You named 2 street level fighters: Wolverine and Cap.
He fought Wolverine in melee before using powers, and that's because he couldn't put him down. Supposedly he used powers against Cap, but you didn't post any proof.
In any case, I've established that Thor likes to start fights with hth.
Cap, Wolverine and Storm's all have street level durability, that didn't stop Thor from using ranged attacks aginst them, therefore Spider-man being a street level character isn't going to stop Thor from using his powers like you claimed.