Darth Plagueis vs. Russell Edgington

Started by The_Tempest3 pages

Darth Plagueis vs. Russell Edgington

Plagueis as depicted in his titular EU novel by James Luceno vs. Russell as portrayed in seasons 3 and 5 of True Blood.

They fight in an open field.

EU novel

mmm Giving Plagueis the win just because he's from the the SW EU.

Plagueis disintegrates him.

He'd kick his ass in a fist fight as well though, being faster and stronger.

Plagueis doesn't exhibit anything particularly cosmic in terms of destructive power (no planet-killers or anything); but he moves at comparable speeds to Russell, has similar damage soak, and can put his fists through armored torsos of Jedi-killing mercenaries while mortally injured.

I was hoping for more of a contest, but if it is determined that the fight is lopsided too much in Plagueis's favor, we'll throw in Godric to aid Russell.

Can you elaborate on how fast the True Blood characters are? They'll need to be really frickin' fast to stand a chance here to get past Plagueis' TK and lightsaber.

And the best strength feat they have is Russel squishing someones head, I think? Can they get through his Force Barriers?

Not that any of that will stop Quanchi from backing Russel. ¬_¬

I'll do my best to substantiate the following with clips, but Bill (a relative neophyte to someone of Russell's caliber) was able to replicate tornado damage: uprooting trees, flipping trailers, etc.

Bill tousled with Russell in season 3; the first time, Bill jumps on Russell's shoulders to stake him, prompting Russell to shrug, which hurls Bill straight up and into the ceiling; the second time, Russell essentially teleports behind him and beats the shit out of him rather casually.

Other times, Russell has decapitated vampires by merely slapping them, untied a bound vampire and wrapped her captor in the chains that had bound her in a blur of movement, stopped a car with one hand, etc. and so forth.

Well, you're certainly better at supporting the vamps than Quan is. All he managed for ages was Russel stopping that car, which was braking at the time.

All that would make this a much closer fight than I anticipated, and might flip my view of a few previous threads on their heads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mulg2dPVo2s
(0:41)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jncCqxKBAlk
(3:28)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZAwFcKNs28
(2:38)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge0rqLATG9c
(2:04)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjIJ2WOHYPY
(0:15, 1:55-2:09, 3:02, 3:10)

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well, you're certainly better at supporting the vamps than Quan is. All he managed for ages was Russel stopping that car, which was braking at the time.

All that would make this a much closer fight than I anticipated, and might flip my view of a few previous threads on their heads.

If you don't watch the series or have any knowledge of the character it isn't my job to educate the ignorant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you don't watch the series or have any knowledge of the character it isn't my job to educate the ignorant.

Actually....

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Actually....
Wrong. I have correctly stated his position and argued how powerful he is. I don't go running around looking for every youtube link for someone who doesn't know who he is yet is arguing against him.

I expect someone to be somewhat familiar before entering a thread like myself.

If you make a claim, the burden is on you to prove it. Saying Russell Edgington is powerful is the claim, not the proof.

The only expectation that's relevant here is the one that's been in place in debates since time immemorial: you make a claim, you back it up.

Neph or anyone else has every right to criticize you for withholding proof (for whatever reason) if that's what you've been doing.

He's not wrong. And I mentioned bills throwing the trailer before! 😠

Originally posted by Blight
He's not wrong. And I mentioned bills throwing the trailer before! 😠

Yes, but people actually listen when I tell them. You may wallow in your own insignificance.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
If you make a claim, the burden is on you to prove it. Saying Russell Edgington is powerful is the claim, not the proof.

The only expectation that's relevant here is the one that's been in place in debates since time immemorial: you make a claim, you back it up.

Neph or anyone else has every right to criticize you for withholding proof (for whatever reason) if that's what you've been doing.

No, if someone in a Superman thread demands I prove he can fly I don't have to it's just ignorance. Most people are ignorant when it comes to Russell and want to argue against him anyway. I posted one youtube link and they are lucky I went that far.

They need to do their own homework, charley.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No,

Well that settles it; untold centuries of debating and discourse practices are rendered obsolete by your laziness.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Well that settles it; untold centuries of debating and discourse practices are rendered obsolete by your laziness.
Changing my response can't hide the truth of my righteous words. The point is Zelda fans go into threads arguing against characters they next to nothing about yet claim their characters win. That's not how it's done. I hold myself to a higher standard and won't go marching into a thread I am completely ignorant in and render a decision.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I hold myself to a higher standard and won't go marching into a thread I am completely ignorant in and render a decision

If this were true, your post count would be somewhere between 0 and 1.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
If this were true, your post count would be somewhere between 0 and 1.
See you're here to start trouble I am here to debate; respectfully.