The elders of the universe vs the new Gods.

Round 1: Team has their individual gems.

Round 2: No gems.

Both sides are bloodlusted.

New Gods in both. The second is spite.

Rd 1 Elders
Rd 2 Elders

Elders have Inbetweener

Regardless of bad showings, some of the Elders have almost Abstract Entity-level feats. Especially if you go back 10 years or more.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Rd 1 Elders
Rd 2 Elders

Elders have Inbetweener

Darkseid at some levels is also near abstract. Unless we use base levels, but last incarnation DS was a beast.

And Scott has possessed the ALE as well.

We including Yuga Khan? That man is a beast... IIRC when he took the throne back from DS he did it like a boss.

Basically I see top contenders from New Gods

Darkseid
Highfather
Yuga
Orion
Infinity Man
Scott Free

probably couple others who if I weren't so tired I'd remember to name.

Forgot, no ALE or in-betweener.

So, Darkseid, Yuga, Orion, and Barda?

Originally posted by The Merchant
Forgot, no ALE or in-betweener.

inbetweener is elder so you band, how about Ego is a elder too!!

Black Racer is a New God too, isn't he?

New Gods. There are too many and some of them are more then capable to hold their own, or to own ^^.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Black Racer is a New God too, isn't he?

Are any of you familiar with some of the things Elders such as the Collector and Grand Master have done in the past?
Control of life and death, resurrection, grabbing alternate versions of characters from other realities, controlling characters, destroying huge sections of the universe, etc.

Haven't heard the destroying sections of the universe part.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Haven't heard the destroying sections of the universe part.

Same with Collector. They toyed with top-tier characters and uber-teams like pets. They were also treated as equals by dimensional rulers and even Death.

There are other high-level characters that have been called members of the "Elders of the Universe".

Originally posted by Horrificus
Actually, it was the "Life Bombs" of the Grand Master that were each able to destroy 1/5th of the universe. But, he also traveled back and forth through time, to different dimensions, and had many high-level showings, originally around Sky-Father level.

Same with Collector. They toyed with top-tier characters and uber-teams like pets. They were also treated as equals by dimensional rulers and even Death.

Considering Darkseid is one of the top dogs on the New Gods' team, being at his level is no bad thing.

Who are you guys matching up against Grandmaster?