@Squallx...
He punched Adam one time and bfred him and Adam was ok after the attack. He didn't defeat Adam.
When did he defeat the Justice League?
He killed some no name Lanterns just like Gladiator killed some not so Primed Centurions. When he went up against Hal, Hal made him scream out in pain with a single blast.
Him surviving the Anti matter is a durability ft...that's not what I am asking for since we know Prime can be ktfo.
He didn't escape the speed force. Where did you get that from buddy?
What we do know is Superman gave him a fight. What we do know is Conner gave him a fight and the list goes on. Again I ask...what team has Prime DEFEATED? Prime doing good against a powerful team is a good showing just like it wad for V&V Despero...just like it was for Black Adam...just like it was for Alan Scott...just like it was for Superman...just like it was for Wonder Woman...Zoom, Grundy, The General, and the list goes on. But that doesn't mean these people are going to walk through/ defeat a guy that tanked hits from one of the most powerful high Heralds and a guy that ripped adamntium and Uru like tissue paper. Or defeat a guy that tanked everything the entire mutant race threw at him. Get out of here with that.
Originally posted by carver9
@Squallx...He punched Adam one time and bfred him and Adam was ok after the attack. He didn't defeat Adam.
When did he defeat the Justice League?
He killed some no name Lanterns just like Gladiator killed some not so Primed Centurions. When he went up against Hal, Hal made him scream out in pain with a single blast.
Him surviving the Anti matter is a durability ft...that's not what I am asking for since we know Prime can be ktfo.
He didn't escape the speed force. Where did you get that from buddy?
What we do know is Superman gave him a fight. What we do know is Conner gave him a fight and the list goes on. Again I ask...what team has Prime DEFEATED? Prime doing good against a powerful team is a good showing just like it wad for V&V Despero...just like it was for Black Adam...just like it was for Alan Scott...just like it was for Superman...just like it was for Wonder Woman...Zoom, Grundy, The General, and the list goes on. But that doesn't mean these people are going to walk through/ defeat a guy that tanked hits from one of the most powerful high Heralds and a guy that ripped adamntium and Uru like tissue paper. Or defeat a guy that tanked everything the entire mutant race threw at him. Get out of here with that.
Wow, just wow. Did you read ever something involving Prime or did you forget everything? If I would be a mod I would have a hard time resisting to ban you for this incredible lowball orgy...
When hewent against the whole GL corps he killed a lot of them and did this to hal...
Flash said they couldn't hold him any longer and he escaped. Since they took him into the speed force he escaped...
Originally posted by carver9
@Squallx...He punched Adam one time and bfred him and Adam was ok after the attack. He didn't defeat Adam.
When did he defeat the Justice League?
He killed some no name Lanterns just like Gladiator killed some not so Primed Centurions. When he went up against Hal, Hal made him scream out in pain with a single blast.
Him surviving the Anti matter is a durability ft...that's not what I am asking for since we know Prime can be ktfo.
He didn't escape the speed force. Where did you get that from buddy?
What we do know is Superman gave him a fight. What we do know is Conner gave him a fight and the list goes on. Again I ask...what team has Prime DEFEATED? Prime doing good against a powerful team is a good showing just like it wad for V&V Despero...just like it was for Black Adam...just like it was for Alan Scott...just like it was for Superman...just like it was for Wonder Woman...Zoom, Grundy, The General, and the list goes on. But that doesn't mean these people are going to walk through/ defeat a guy that tanked hits from one of the most powerful high Heralds and a guy that ripped adamntium and Uru like tissue paper. Or defeat a guy that tanked everything the entire mutant race threw at him. Get out of here with that.
Carvster throwin some haymakers!
I dunno...I was pretty impressed. I mean, with the blood boiling, if all his blood was transmuted into fire...I don't think a high herald would just tank that and walk on as if nothing was happening. A GL couldn't do it, for example - witness Guy Gardner and his red ring (the closest analogy I could quickly think of). Or the resistance to BFR - not many can tank that. Superman couldn't, not the casual way Kuurth shrugged it off. He'd still have to fly from wherever it was he was BFRed to, so BFR him a good enough distance and he'd stay BFRed for a victory condition. Kuurth just couldn't be sent away.
Originally posted by SquallX
Prime fought a team of heralds in the middle of the night after being stuck in a prison inside a red sun.
There was also alot of talking and pussy footing around that night. Had the assult continued uninterrupted he probably would have been put down. And the red sun thing isn't that impressive since it takes very little to power Prime up. The length of time in the red sun doesn't really makes a difference
Originally posted by Sin I AMYou do understand who the mutant, Hope, is right? And that Kuurth completely no sold her allout assault? Prime doesn't even no sell Superboy and never has. Prime's armor was completely stripped by Cosmic Boy(s) whereas Kuurth's armor and weapon no sold Magneto. Kuurth no sold being BFR'ed directly into a sun. Prime got utterly depowered when he was. Kuurth utterly no sold Cerebro amped Emma. And Prime hasn't a single feat of telepathic resistance. Even classic Juggernaut w/o Kuurth amp completely no sold a godblast. And erroneous myths that Prime busted ot of the Speedforce doesn't diminish Kuurth's level of power.
Yes not impressive, most competent high heralds can do the exact same thing...blood boiling, resisting bfr, etc. only thing he had on classic Marko is tp resistance imo
Originally posted by ODG
You do understand who the mutant, Hope, is right? And that Kuurth completely no sold her allout assault? Prime doesn't even no sell Superboy and never has. Prime's armor was completely stripped by Cosmic Boy(s) whereas Kuurth's armor and weapon no sold Magneto. Kuurth no sold being BFR'ed directly into a sun. Prime got utterly depowered when he was. Kuurth utterly no sold Cerebro amped Emma. And Prime hasn't a single feat of telepathic resistance. Even classic Juggernaut w/o Kuurth amp completely no sold a godblast. And erroneous myths that Prime busted ot of the Speedforce doesn't diminish Kuurth's level of power.
Kuurth's armor didn't no sell Magneto. His helmet was visabily damaged. Not that it mattered at all since Kuurth was in no way harmed
And how did Prime get out of the Speedforce exactly?
Originally posted by ODG
You do understand who the mutant, Hope, is right? And that Kuurth completely no sold her allout assault? Prime doesn't even no sell Superboy and never has. Prime's armor was completely stripped by Cosmic Boy(s) whereas Kuurth's armor and weapon no sold Magneto. Kuurth no sold being BFR'ed directly into a sun. Prime got utterly depowered when he was. Kuurth utterly no sold Cerebro amped Emma. And Prime hasn't a single feat of telepathic resistance. Even classic Juggernaut w/o Kuurth amp completely no sold a godblast. And erroneous myths that Prime busted ot of the Speedforce doesn't diminish Kuurth's level of power.
Hope was a scrub with her powers, a child with a machine gun. No it's not impressive, and the circumstances regarding the failed bfr attempts and magneto was his magic nature. IMO classic Cain should have been able to replicate all those feats. Even the tp resistance if he fully utilized cytorrak
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hope was a scrub with her powers, a child with a machine gun.
Agree.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
No it's not impressive
Agree AND disagree.
Not impressive that Kuurth withstood her assault?
True.
Scott explicitly told Hope that the simple act of borrowing everyone's power for removing Kuurth's helmet would make her burn out quickly.
Said as if Hope would be exhausted from the effort no matter WHO her opponent was, Kuurth, or Captain America.
Not impressively portrayed, though?
Disagree with that. The artists gave that scene EPIC portrayal, arguably better than anything I'd seen in the 3 Juggernaut cycles that have preceeded it .
Originally posted by Sin I AM
the circumstances regarding the failed bfr attempts and magneto was his magic nature.
This seemed extremely random.
Why was Magneto's power able to affect Kuurth's helmet, yet not Kuurth's hammer? Why was Colosus eventually able to take Kuurth wherever he wanted, and prevent Kuurth from returning to where he'd been moments earlier, but not Pixie, who more or less specializes in BFR?
Why was Rogue unable to steal power from Kuurth, when she's proven able to do so twice from Marko himself as Juggernaut and even once to Black Tom after HE'D touched the Ruby of Cytorrak as well?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
IMO classic Cain should have been able to replicate all those feats.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Even the tp resistance if he fully utilized cytorrak
Much as I like having counters to villains, except for the necessity of making Professor X relevant to an A-1 fighting team, I'm not sure it ever really made sense to me that tp should work on someone like Juggernaut .
I guess Marko would more or less have to be mentally weak for him to be possessable and controllable by Cytorrak in the first place, though.