Enel vs Yamamoto

Started by Rikudo sennin3 pages
Originally posted by Nephthys
When did Yama destroy Karakura town again?

The power of his attack ennetsu jigoku had the power to destroy it and much more including the barrier urahara put around it.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
The power of his attack ennetsu jigoku had the power to destroy it and much more including the barrier urahara put around it.

When was that stated? If you are referring to when Aizen said in reference to Yama's flames that 'an area many times the size of this tiny town would've been reduced to ash", that was all of Yama's flames, not just Ennetsu Jigoku.

Besides which Yama needed to set up Ennetsu Jigoku, hence why he allowed Aizen to pwn his su8ordinates.

He didn't destroy jack squat that was worth anything. He tanked a nuke but that was about it.

And I've already be over the El Thor feat with that guy but I'll post it again:

http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2351-15/one-piece/chapter-244.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2351-16/one-piece/chapter-244.html

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
[B]Aizen was talking down the town because it is a human town so he does not think much of it.

Or, it's just not very big.

Your scan doesn't prove your point that well.

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=14333
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Unknown's has been accepted as the official and more up to date calc of that feat actually, as evidence on Enel's OBD wiki.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Or, it's just not very big.

Your scan doesn't prove your point that well.

Unknown's has been accepted as the official and more up to date calc of that feat actually, as evidence on Enel's OBD wiki.

How foolish aizen has always viewed humans and everything to do with them as pathetic which is why he can't stand the idea of being beaten by ichigo.

Yet another member agrees it does? The town is MASSIVE much bigger than a floating village.

Doesn't matter he basically blew up a village that was easier to destroy since it's base was easier to hit which made the rest collapse in a chain reaction nothing in comparison to karakura town.

Whereas Yama has blown up no towns. 😐

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
How foolish aizen has always viewed humans and everything to do with them as pathetic which is why he can't stand the idea of being beaten by ichigo.

This has nothing to do with anything.

It's not large.

Yet another member agrees it does? The town is MASSIVE much bigger than a floating village.

Tell me how big.

Doesn't matter he basically blew up a village that was easier to destroy since it's base was easier to hit which made the rest collapse in a chain reaction nothing in comparison to karakura town.

He blew up the entire landmass.

A chain reaction?

You're reaching.

Originally posted by Nephthys
When was that stated? If you are referring to when Aizen said in reference to Yama's flames that 'an area many times the size of this tiny town would've been reduced to ash", that was all of Yama's flames, not just Ennetsu Jigoku.

Besides which Yama needed to set up Ennetsu Jigoku, hence why he allowed Aizen to pwn his su8ordinates.

Ennetsu jigoku was going to be used to destroy all the captains along with karakura town. Also that is how it's use is described on the wiki.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
He didn't destroy jack squat that was worth anything. He tanked a nuke but that was about it.

And I've already be over the El Thor feat with that guy but I'll post it again:

http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2351-15/one-piece/chapter-244.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2351-16/one-piece/chapter-244.html

Wow he burnt through a cloud.

Originally posted by NemeBro
This has nothing to do with anything.

It's not large.

Tell me how big.

He blew up the entire landmass.

A chain reaction?

You're reaching.

Actually it does considering you are the one who focused on aizen's specific words in "tiny town" where it actually isn't but him basically thinking of humans as inferior also goes for their civilizations and such. Your blind for even thinking for a second that karakura town is not huge.

What am I supposed to pull out a calculation? It is obviously big just by looking at it I do not need to give more proof. Much bigger than a rock with a measly village on it.

You suck.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Ennetsu jigoku was going to be used to destroy all the captains along with karakura town. Also that is how it's use is described on the wiki.

It's never stated that Ennetsu Jigoku would destroy Karakura town.

Something said on the Wiki is not proof.

That wasn't Ennetsu Jigoku, that was all the flames within Yamamoto's sword plus Ennetsu Jigoku.

Theres nothing that suggests that he can attack with everything he has. He needed time just to set up EJ, theres nothing suggesting he can actually vape an area many times the size of Karakura town.

i just posted what Rikudo was referring to so you guys could stop arguing the same point ad nauseam.

Well then thanks. Now everyone can see that I was right.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well then thanks. Now everyone can see that I was right.
np.

here's where Captain Douche starts talking and gives the proper context.

yp

heres were he say's 'all your flames', not just EJ.

With EJ, he tells Ichigo to fall back out of the way, so the blast radius can't be that large. And he wouldn't do an attack that would break the barrier and destroy the real Karakura town.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That wasn't Ennetsu Jigoku, that was all the flames within Yamamoto's sword plus Ennetsu Jigoku.

Theres nothing that suggests that he can attack with everything he has. He needed time just to set up EJ, theres nothing suggesting he can actually vape an area many times the size of Karakura town.

I never said he was gonna dish out that kinda power at a fight since he needs prep but the fact that he tanked it makes his Yamamotos durability>>>whitebeards.

Now that we can agree on.

Originally posted by marwash22
np.

here's where Captain Douche starts talking and gives the proper context.

This the ej had the power to wipe karakura town.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Now that we can agree on.

I never said that he uses that in a fight so it was always agreed on but the fact he tanked that is why it was brought up as nemebro was under the impression that someone who was hurt by bullets and swords would actually have better durability than someone who tanked a city buster.

Wrong thread, actually, and you can't actually point out where I said Whitebeard was "more durable" than Yamamoto, I was only refuting your biased claim that Whitebeard isn't durable at all. I was just saying that Enel's El Thor has at least the same power output as Yamamoto, to be blunt, by feats Enel's power output is greater.

Try to keep up. You can't learn how to properly debate if you can't even learn how to stay consistent in your claims.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Yeah an El thor is as powerful as a city buster. Twit.

Here is you directly stating that the alleged "city buster" is an attack Yamamoto can pull out, when even if we take Aizen's quote at face value, the quote is referring to all the flames Yamamoto can conjure, not any single attack.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
http://www.mangareader.net/94-48094-16/bleach/chapter-395.html
"An area Many times the size of this tiny town would've been reduced to ash" GTFO

And you stating it is a town buster still makes you look foolish as a El thor is not even remotely a town buster fail.

Further proof supporting that you said he can use it as an attack (Also, notice you calling me foolish for something I proceeded to prove).

Oh, and Yamamoto was hurt by a "sword".

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Actually it does considering you are the one who focused on aizen's specific words in "tiny town" where it actually isn't but him basically thinking of humans as inferior also goes for their civilizations and such. Your blind for even thinking for a second that karakura town is not huge.

You haven't proved it.

What am I supposed to pull out a calculation?

Yes.

You suck.

Reported for flaming.