Only fanboys lose patience. WB is the most profitable studio pretty much each year. They no longer have the luxury of the Potter franchise and Nolan's Batman has ended this year. There is a reason why no DC movie will come out other than Man of Steel, so they can have a clear path on what to do. Movies just don't pump out and if they do rush it, it will most likely suck. Which is to say most super hero films.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
A Hank Pym movie featuring his identities as Ant-Man and Giant-Man and maybe with Ultron in it would be good
IMO, they played the Thanos card wayyyy too early. Would have been nice if Avengers 2 had something to do with Ant Man and Ultron. Ultron could jack a few Iron Man armors and Thor and Hulk going to town on Stark's pricey toys would make a helluva fight scene, IMO. 😛
Originally posted by Golgo13
Didn't he have say over the Green Lantern movie? No wonder the executives are ignoring him. That's why WB brought in Nelson, so their properties can grow and it has worked so far.
No, he didn't have say. He was just brought on set to see how it was going.
Originally posted by Golgo13
There are other avenues besides movies. Currently DC Nation is pretty big on Cartoon Network and WB is still doing quality shows. Arrow and a new Wonder Woman show is in the works. Not to mention video games as well. You'll have Injustice Gods Among Us and JLA in the prequel to Batman Arkham series. Diane Nelson has done a solid job so far and will probably continue to grow. That is the primary reason WB hired her.So far, WB has hired a legit screen writer for the new JL movie (has been in the works for almost a year) and they just need to grab a solid director.
The Arkham prequel is a rumour, that's all.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Only fanboys lose patience. WB is the most profitable studio pretty much each year. They no longer have the luxury of the Potter franchise and Nolan's Batman has ended this year. There is a reason why no DC movie will come out other than Man of Steel, so they can have a clear path on what to do. Movies just don't pump out and if they do rush it, it will most likely suck. Which is to say most super hero films.
WB has shown a disturbing lack of knowledge and enthusiasm when it comes to comic book properties on the big screen, though.
Green Lantern could have, and should have been much better.
If Man of Steel doesn't do well, which is up in the air at this point, DC is going to have a hard time coming back from it.
This was the link I was talking about, PR...
http://www.newsarama.com/film/arkham-city-prequel-justice-league.html
Originally posted by Nibedicus
IMO, they played the Thanos card wayyyy too early. Would have been nice if Avengers 2 had something to do with Ant Man and Ultron. Ultron could jack a few Iron Man armors and Thor and Hulk going to town on Stark's pricey toys would make a helluva fight scene, IMO. 😛
That sounds like it would be good. Also they could have used Kang for an Avengers movie villain.
Originally posted by Golgo13
This was the link I was talking about, PR...http://www.newsarama.com/film/arkham-city-prequel-justice-league.html
Yeah, I remember reading it.
Re: WB Marketing/Research survey LCBS
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=67796Lol, really? I mean if this is accurate...WTF.
It is quite mind boggling that DC apparently has no idea how best to put together a film franchise outside of Nolan's Dark Knight Saga.
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It's just sooooo SAD!
Originally posted by Endless Mike
That sounds like it would be good. Also they could have used Kang for an Avengers movie villain.
Thanos is the heavy everyone wants to see. They are holding him back as much as they need to - it would have been too early to have the Avengers fighting him openly in the first film.
I'm not so high on the idea of Kang as a villain. People who are capable of time travel, it requires too much suspension of disbelief as to why they don't just travel far back enough to settle any problem they have. It's something I don't like in comics.
Originally posted by roughriderMaybe comic fans want to see him, but I think they played him well. I don't like the idea of Kang either.
Thanos is the heavy everyone wants to see. They are holding him back as much as they need to - it would have been too early to have the Avengers fighting him openly in the first film.I'm not so high on the idea of Kang as a villain. People who are capable of time travel, it requires too much suspension of disbelief as to why they don't just travel far back enough to settle any problem they have. It's something I don't like in comics.
Personally I don't think they played the Thanos card to early. It makes sense to have him as the big bad for the next one. He links everything that has happened so far quite nicely.
Originally posted by Golgo13It's hard to do time travel right and it would be so out of left field based on what all the other movies were built on.
I'd rather see Kang than Thanos. I think a lot of people would be open to time travel, if done right.
In the long list of Avengers Villains Kang would be low for me.
I would rather see Ultron than Kang.
Originally posted by Golgo13
I'd rather see Kang than Thanos. I think a lot of people would be open to time travel, if done right.
Another problem doing Kang right, is that he's the descendent of both Doctor doom and Reed Richards. That could put him under the Fantastic Four banner, who's screen-rights are still owned by Fox.
Ultron gets in line at least before Kang. it's a natural way to bring Hank Pym and Janet into the lineup.
Originally posted by Newjak
Maybe comic fans want to see him, but I think they played him well. I don't like the idea of Kang either.Personally I don't think they played the Thanos card to early. It makes sense to have him as the big bad for the next one. He links everything that has happened so far quite nicely.
I agree. The avengers had to deal with aliens and stuff, having a villain from earth would be retarded for the next film. Thanos is a fitting Villain for the next movie as their going bigger and badder, and who else is bigger and badder than Thanos?
Galactus maybe, but they ruined him in the FF movie so no..Thanos it is!
Originally posted by Nibedicus
IMO, they played the Thanos card wayyyy too early. Would have been nice if Avengers 2 had something to do with Ant Man and Ultron. Ultron could jack a few Iron Man armors and Thor and Hulk going to town on Stark's pricey toys would make a helluva fight scene, IMO. 😛
I'm with you with that
Originally posted by NibedicusAnother viewpoint is this: It's only too early, if it doesn't work. If it works, it's fine. Let's face it, I've had trepidation as well for them introducing Thanos here. But that's just fear that they do the job poorly. And I was feelin that way back when Thor and Captain America were being fast-tracked towards Avengers.
IMO, they played the Thanos card wayyyy too early.
I would have loved Ultron. But it's not exactly easy to go from intergalactic army led by an interdimensional god of evil ---> evil crazy robot. The idea of Avengers is "foes that none of them could defeat on their own." People don't know Ultron and frankly, a killer robot running amok just wouldn't resonate with the general audience as being more dangerous than Loki, let alone Loki + alien army.
Sometimes you gotta up the ante.
Originally posted by ODG
Another viewpoint is this: It's only too early, if it doesn't work. If it works, it's fine. Let's face it, I've had trepidation as well for them introducing Thanos here. But that's just fear that they do the job poorly. And I was feelin that way back when Thor and Captain America were being fast-tracked towards Avengers.I would have loved Ultron. But it's not exactly easy to go from intergalactic army led by an interdimensional god of evil ---> evil crazy robot. The idea of Avengers is "foes that none of them could defeat on their own." People don't know Ultron and frankly, a killer robot running amok just wouldn't resonate with the general audience as being more dangerous than Loki, let alone Loki + alien army.
Sometimes you gotta up the ante.
Originally posted by armedforbattle
Yeah but it's not like ultron has to fight the avengers by himself. Like mentioned above ultron could steal the older iron man armors. Or he could make his own robots (setting up for the vision) ... my only concern with thanos being in avengers 2 is where are they gonna go after that? Not only can thanos wreck the avengers as they are now, they're gonna have to go even stronger for avengers 3. I mean where are they gonna go after thanos? It doesn't get much bigger than him for the avengers.
So the third movie might have to calm the threat down a bit. Make it more of an internal problem. I think Ultron will work well for the third.
Bigger threats don't always make the superior movie. Bane was a much bigger threat than Joker. So what? TDK was still by far the superior movie Imo.
Edit- And even IF A3 can't beat A2 in awesomness, so what? It's not the end of the world. It happens a lot that the 2nd movie is the best one. Doesn't mean the 3rd movie has to suck.