Writers vs Fans

Started by SamZED3 pages

My brother doesn't read comics but he loves Wolverine (watched all the movies and after that even read a couple of Ult X-men issues) says Logan is badass. I can say for sure he wont appreciate it if Wolverine shows up in the next movie sporting yellow tights and I could waste all my breath explaining that its a uniform and it is symbolic etc the answer would still be - "WTF He's wearing TIGHTS!" Same goes for Galactus and many others. Some things just dont work for movies because they're aimed at bigger audience.

Originally posted by Digi
Rofl. Go read pretty much any review on the film. There's a lot they did wrong. And I honestly can't believe you think the Doom portrayal was spot on. He was butchered pretty thoroughly by the movies.

Also lulz at Sue as nothing but eye candy. Do you read FF?

Anyway, this is threatening to sidetrack us. My point was about Galactus alone, setting aside the rest of the movie. I think there's a lot to be said for the difficulty in translating anything that isn't Earth-based in comics to movies.

I think dooms a lot harder to pull off than people think. I think in all the animated and movie mediums the only doom I think was spot on was the one from EMH.

Sinestro is much easier to write. If a GL2 gets green-lit (har!) it will be a lot better almost by default, even if the movie's other flaws remain intact.

Originally posted by Newjak
What makes Superhero movies different from Sci-fi or fantasy movies that tackle similar non-earth based concepts?

...and if I told you there hasn't been a good Superman movie?

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Different eras, so it's hard to say. We accept Zod and call him badass with the same nostalgia-goggles that we love Flash Gordon with. A similarly hokey movie (it IS hokey) would get destroyed in today's film world.

Like with Superman Returns. They trotted out Kyrptonite, Luthor as played by a competent actor, told Routh to do an exact Christopher Reeve impression (which he actually did remarkably well), and it was killed by fans and critics. We have higher standards for sci-fi films.

That said, Superman doesn't feel as alien because they make it a point to have him hauling hay bales during the exposition. He also lives on Earth and looks human. Try recreating some odd storyline like the rebirth of Krypton on film...THEN it would be comparable to Galactus parking on our lawn, or carting off to Oa while an abstract embodiment hunts you down.

The writers of Doctor Who had, at one point, a standing rule that any new Doctor had to spend their entire first season on Earth...because audiences didn't take to non-Earth stories as well. Even at the end of the 10th Doctor's run, long after the show had become too established to fail, they had a minimum percentage of stories that had to happen on Earth, for fear of losing their audience.

Originally posted by Blight
The biggest issue I could see is the constant Name-Dropping that occurs in comics.

If you had Death of Superman and wanted to make it relevent, you'd need to establish the following characters in a movie setting (Sort of like Marvel Did):

Blue Beetle
Guy Gardner
Guardian
Supergirl (Matrix)
Booster Gold
Maxima
Fire
Ice
Bloodwynd (And establish the fact that Martian Manhunter has changed into him)

I'm sure there's more, but this is if you're TRULY trying to appeal to the hardcorest of the hardcore fans. Frankly, all this would be unnecessary to me.

the superman/doomsday animated feature skipped all of those lames

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the superman/doomsday animated feature skipped all of those lames
And it was one of the worst DC Animated films...

it was shakespeare compared to public enemies which adhered more to the original material

for the sake of brevity, doomsday just went straight at superman and beat him into a death-like state, no need to prove his lethality against characters dc barely cares about

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it was shakespeare compared to public enemies which adhered more to the original material
Okay ermmhappy

at least admit it was better than public enemies, i need to know intelligent life is on the other end of this machine

Doomsday was not better. They were close, but Doomsday is the worst one. The problem with Public Enemies is that the Source Material wasn't really that good. DoS is better.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

Originally posted by Newjak
I think the second was set up for Sinestro to be the villain and that he would have been an awesome.
If they wanted to make GL a badass movie franchise like Iron Man, Batman, or X-Men then they should have planned for a trilogy from the get go. The first movie could have left out Parallax entirely and focused on Hal, Sinestro, and the eventual betrayal. Kinda like the second Star Wars trilogy, except much less gay.

The only good part of Superman Doomsday was the opening fight. The rest was crap.

Public Enemies had more quality, even if it skimped quite a bit.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The only good part of Superman Doomsday was the opening fight. The rest was crap.

Public Enemies had more quality, even if it skimped quite a bit.


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They should do Green Lantern: Rebirth as an animated DC film.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
They should do Green Lantern: Rebirth as an animated DC film.

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I liked the fights in Public Enemies.

Not fond of the Superman/Batman giant rocket thing.

Green Lantern put too much stuff into a 2 hour film. It felt like the film didn't know what it wanted to be and simply threw stuff out there hoping it would be a hit.

Kyle would have made the movie an Avengers-like hit though.

Justice League Doom was the best modern League movie for me.

Also, Hal = Guy > John >>> Kyle.

Guy the Great would make any movie at least B- grade just for appearing in it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Justice League Doom was the best modern League movie for me.

Also, Hal = Guy > John >>> Kyle.

i agree with Doom, the rest is simply non-sense.

You guys see guy in the new gl episode?