Wolverine vs Samurai Jack

Started by the ninjak24 pages

Looney Tunes always win fights.

Whoa, do I smell some Wolverine fanboys?

Originally posted by the ninjak
Looney Tunes always win fights.

Actually, a majority of Jack's feats are played straight, as the series does have a sense of mortality. Sure, he has some silly stuff go on, cartoons tend to have it happen from time to time, but for the most part everything Jack's done has been in a serious tone, and established in canon as he demonstrates previously learned abilities in later episodes.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Actually, a majority of Jack's feats are played straight, as the series does have a sense of mortality. Sure, he has some silly stuff go on, cartoons tend to have it happen from time to time, but for the most part everything Jack's done has been in a serious tone, and established in canon as he demonstrates previously learned abilities in later episodes.

Cmon!

Originally posted by NemeBro
Jack resisted being crushed by a 700 ton sumo, he could leap hundreds of feet while carrying boulders, he routinely matches and defeats a character who can blow up cities with eye lasers and is the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, he is fast enough to casually dodge and block machine-gun fire with his sword, and has survived atmospheric re-entry and the landing.

He's a freakin Looney Tune. Just a very stylized one.

The boulder feat is being misremembered unless I missed later episodes that demonstrated it.

He has in fact moved with large boulders tied to his legs and carrying an even larger boulder on his back. He could not leap hundreds of feet in the air while so encumbered, but he was eventually able to move comfortably under the weight. This is because it was training, and once the boulders were removed, he was able to leap hundreds of feet into the air casually. He would demonstrate the ability in later episodes, further cementing that it was definitive progression for the character.

Looney Tunes wouldn't need training like that.

Looney Tunes show strain under weight. And under any given moment can overwhelm it.

Whether Jack required training or not. It's absurd. He defies physics on a logical scale.

And comics don't? Wolverine being able to even move under his own weight isn't putting a dunce cap on logic and sending it to the corner? It's all absurd, let's not kid ourselves.

I'm not.

Logan recently stood his ground whilst a truck/ute crashed into him. The engine and front bumper crushed forward whilst he stood his ground on a highway. Logan has a degree of super strength. He always did.

Such a feat is impossible unless the guy has the strength to do it. Which he does. But the soles of his shoes should've given way and flipped him over the cars roof.

But Jack's feats are more absurd. Pushing him into Looney Tunes category.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Jack will lose once Logan gets rid of his shoes.

😆

Originally posted by the ninjak
But Jack's feats are more absurd. Pushing him into Looney Tunes category.

You can find feats that are far more absurd and yet played completely straight.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
You can find feats that are far more absurd and yet played completely straight.

The thing about Jack, is he was modeled after the "epic hero" who did whatever they needed to do. One day he'll struggle with a relatively light weight, and the next he'll handle it with ease. That's usually considered "PIS", but mythic heroes did this stuff all the time.. Their power levels fluctuated to fit the story, because they didn't think about power levels or consistency. The only thing that mattered, was making an epic story that would wow the audience, along with making characters people care about..

Think "Paul Bunyan" or "Davey Crockett" tall tales. Or even Chuck Norris memes. 😄

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Whoa, do I smell some Wolverine fanboys?

Clearly you haven't read any of Wolverine related books.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Looney Tunes show strain under weight. And under any given moment can overwhelm it.

Whether Jack required training or not. It's absurd. He defies physics on a logical scale.

Compared to comics, where there exists a character who can shatter glaciers and toss Ultraman out of a solar system, yet has the audacity to call himself a peak human?

Jack is just a much less absurd and powerful Karate Kid.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Clearly you haven't read any of Wolverine related books.

I haven't. But that was more in response to the "toon" comment from the other two posters. They sounded like butthurt to me, but I wasn't sure. Still not sure, either.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I haven't. But that was more in response to the "toon" comment from the other two posters. They sounded like butthurt to me, but I wasn't sure. Still not sure, either.

I've always said "Looney Tunes win fights" It's kind of a statement I invented a while back and it's intent is jest in nature.

No reason to get defensive or over analytical over it. There's no butthurt here, it's not my style.

I haven't seen every ep of Samurai Jack. But such characters tend to pull insane feats out of their asses to eviscerate their enemies.
Sometimes they have hard times against common foes then they defeat much more threatening ones.

We need to look at real feats and compare. For instance someone stated Jack survived reentry form Earth's orbit and landed feeling fine. What was the situation behind that?

I don't think all of Jack's great feats are as random as the orbit fall might have been. For example, his jump training where he ran with the boulder was built up to, explained by the tribe of monkeys that Jack met in the forest who were also capable of jumping like that.

But Jack had been blatantly superhuman since the start of his series. You don't slay an army on your own as one regular man.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I've always said "Looney Tunes win fights" It's kind of a statement I invented a while back and it's intent is jest in nature.

No reason to get defensive or over analytical over it. There's no butthurt here, it's not my style.

I haven't seen every ep of Samurai Jack. But such characters tend to pull insane feats out of their asses to eviscerate their enemies.
Sometimes they have hard times against common foes then they defeat much more threatening ones.

We need to look at real feats and compare. For instance someone stated Jack survived reentry form Earth's orbit and landed feeling fine. What was the situation behind that?

It was an episode where he came across a group that was trying to escape the planet by building a rocket. Jack aided in protecting them from Aku's forces. They fitted him with a rocket suit and he rode on the rocket with them. Once in space he had to fly out and handle another wave of robots. The original premise was their entering hyperspace would let Jack return to his own time. He opted to defend the rocket to ensure its safety. After it departed, Jack fell back to the planet. The final panel is of Jack walking off into the woods with the destroyed spacesuit in the foreground.

YouTube video

Wolverine stomps. Jack got beat down by a DJ. 😎

haermm Classic.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine stomps. Jack got beat down by a DJ. 😎

Lowballing much?