What mach is the raikage?

Started by Astner4 pages

Originally posted by dadudemon
Do you see what I mean now about the OBD "calcs" being rubbish? They have no basic concepts of physics and just mash things together and hope it sticks. I get irritated reading those threads. However, some of them do readily admit that they do not know what they are doing so I can overlook their attempts.

I'm not even sure why the Outskirt battledome calculations are used here. They're based off of pseudo scientific applications of formulas that produces results counter-intuitive to the quantification of the phenomena.

I'm not too up-to-date with the forum, but when I posted there people would only refute calculations if they had a grudge against the poster making them, or a bias against the consequences of the result.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they have some decent calculations over there. What I'm trying to say is, make sure that the calculation you're using is right. At the very least, don't post a calculation you haven't read.

Originally posted by Astner
Technically I'm not even sure you could generalize attacks without losing information, but that's besides the point.

The pulverization of rock isn't linear to mass. On top of that, it wasn't a shock-wave, because only the mountain was affected. Shock-waves are omnidirectional.

But let me illustrate this with a counter-example, because I'm lazy. Imagine if you collide two sword at mach 10. The swords weigh, say two kilogram each.

The maximal energy of that shock-wave—according to Newtonian physics—would be: (4/2)*(340*10)^2 ≈ 23 MJ, or 6.4 kWh.

And that's the energy at impact, it would reduce quadratically over the distance to that mountain.


So the calc that was done was still wrong afterall? Hmm...seemed to be the agreed value on there so I just went with. I'll accept fault on this part for not fully reading the calc.

Admittedly physics isn't my best subject and if someone at least uses the right formulas or formulas that appear to give away proper measurement of velocity and acceleration i just go with the number provided as a result.

Edit: So Ichigo is not Mach 10 then?

Re: What mach is the raikage?

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Is there any calculations on how fast the raikages are?
slower than this:

Re: Re: What mach is the raikage?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
slower than this:

How is he slower then then that if he is the fastest character alongside his dad other than naruto and minato.

crossed the farthest distance in the shortest amount of time without using time-space techs.

come at me

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
What a weird calc he has to be higher than that he is the strongest character seen in his verse there is no way g2 luffy can still be faster than him. It's insane.
Oh look, it's Rikudo Sennin revealing his agenda.

Why can't he be faster?

I'm pretty sure there were some OBD calcs putting Bleach chars at Mach 20.. not sure if they're right though

Originally posted by Samurai100
I'm pretty sure there were some OBD calcs putting Bleach chars at Mach 20.. not sure if they're right though

lol, the are probably not right. 😄

The OBD itself debunked mach 26 Dangai Ichigo IIRC.

It was something about SS Byakuya being Mach 23 or something

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=17806

I hate maths, so much.

I just can't keep track of all the calcs, or tell which one is right. And if it is then it'll pro8a8ly be de8unked in a few weeks, if that.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh look, it's Rikudo Sennin revealing his agenda.

Why can't he be faster?

That was not my agenda it was just an observation I made from the fact that g2 luffy a notable double digit mach character and I found it hard to believe that pre time skip luffy is faster then the strongest character. Believe it or not I am not out to find ways to destroy one piece it is a great manga.

Mach 11, and with powerscaling off of RM Naruto, Mach 20.
I agree with some OBD calcs being fishy as hell. This is one of them.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I hate maths, so much.

You do know that there's a difference between high school maths and higher educations maths, right?

High school maths centers are calculating, while in university it centers around abstract thinking. In other words, you view it in another light in university.

I didn't really find maths too interesting before I enrolled in engineering physics, and now I can understand everything from single variable analysis to simple group theory (which is the most advanced field in abstract algebra), to Markov theory (which is one of the more advanced computational methods), and so on.

What I'm trying to say is that you can't hate maths.

Originally posted by Radunuya
Mach 11, and with powerscaling off of RM Naruto, Mach 20.
I agree with some OBD calcs being fishy as hell. This is one of them.

Which calc do you think is fishy? And you would think he is mach 11- 14.5 as someone calculated the rasenshuriken speed and the fact that both raikages have like the same speed means they are possibly 14-15 mach which is insane.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Which calc do you think is fishy?

I think he's referring to the one that got refuted early on in the thread.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
And you would think he is mach 11- 14.5 as someone calculated the rasenshuriken speed and the fact that both raikages have like the same speed means they are possibly 14-15 mach which is insane.

I honestly can't say much about the calculations in the Outskirts battledome because I haven't posted there in years. But from what I recall they have rules to foreclose certain methods, and they're also afraid of that their efforts will produce high numbers that people will be uncomfortable with them and dismiss them.

Besides calculating the speed of the Rasenshuriken through impact energy is ridiculous, because all the energy is stored in the rotation.

Originally posted by Astner
I think he's referring to the one that got refuted early on in the thread.

I honestly can't say much about the calculations in the Outskirts battledome because I haven't posted there in years. But from what I recall they have rules to foreclose certain methods, and they're also afraid of that their efforts will produce high numbers that people will be uncomfortable with them and dismiss them.

Besides calculating the speed of the Rasenshuriken through impact energy is ridiculous, because all the energy is stored in the rotation.

You mean the base guy and naruto thing?

There calculations was based on measuring how long the mountain range where the rasenshuriken flew through in seconds. They had a good idea thanks to numerous aerial panels. Then knowing it took like a few seconds to zip over the length they calculated they then did the calculation for how fast it was to get there so quickly and got 11-14.5 mach. Well that's how they said they did it though this could be only part of the calc.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
You mean the base guy and naruto thing?

Never-mind.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
There calculations was based on measuring how long the mountain range where the rasenshuriken flew through in seconds. They had a good idea thanks to numerous aerial panels. Then knowing it took like a few seconds to zip over the length they calculated they then did the calculation for how fast it was to get there so quickly and got 11-14.5 mach. Well that's how they said they did it though this could be only part of the calc.

I'll need the link before I comment on that.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I hate maths, so much.

I just can't keep track of all the calcs, or tell which one is right. And if it is then it'll pro8a8ly be de8unked in a few weeks, if that.

Almost none of them are right...ever. Even the corrected ones are wrong.