Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's not your job to speculate on the theoretically abilities of a character. If you want to make a case that a character can do something, you need to be able to prove it... if you can't, then that's all that maters. What a character has done is [b]the only thing that of an relevance. Theorizing on hypothetical abilities that a character has never shown is a waste of time. Until a character shows the can do something, they can't. Why on earth should we arbitrarily decided that Ozy is a Captain America level threat even though he was never shown to be? How does that make sense to you? I can speculate on the theoretical abilities of Capatain America just as easy as you can Ozy... which makes such exploits pointless.Ozy is a big fish in a small pound. He's the top fighter in a mid level promotion. He's Ben Askren. He might be the top guy at welter weight an undefeated fighter in Belator... but in the UFC he wouldn't even be close to top 10. In fact he'd probably be the equivalent of Charlie Brenneman who was just released from the organization because he can't compete on that level. The difference between what Captain America and Ozy have actually done is astronomical. You can speculate that Ozy was never pushed, and we never saw his limitations... but that is irrelevant. Nothing he actually did supports the notion that he would be on par with any top tier street in Marvel or DC.
Captain America is professional level. Ozy is AA. [/B]
Theorizing goes both ways. If you can't assume a character can do something without showing it then you also can't assume he can't do it when he never shown a limit. If a character has shown a limit then you can assume their limit. But if a character hasn't shown a limit then we either must not discuss said character or choose a reasonable limit supplied by the suspension of disbelief (if possible). This is why people didn't like discussing DCnU Superman when he first appeared.
I highly disagree that if a character hasn't shown something then they can't when it is believable under the suspension of disbelief. For example, Galactus can lift over a million tons but he was never shown to.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok, so what is Ozy's limit, being a peak human?
You got to admit Ozy on the movie was awesome as hell. He seemed slightly super human. Jumping 30ft away, throwing heavy thrones 30 ft away or more, etc.
Originally posted by Mindset
A chair has 4 legs.So he's right.
No, he's not