AvX Wanda/Phoenix Cyclops vs Galactus

Started by Bentley2 pages

The Phoenix Force loses as usual...

Originally posted by ODG
^ Of course, then there's Galactus vs Scrier and the Other. And Chaos War. And Annihilation. And Thanos Imperative.

Where with the exception of the Chaos war, the destruction portrayed in the various sitautions served a purpose. Death destroyed the Canceruniverse effectively ending the threat to the 616 Reality (the battle between multiple Abstract and the Galactus Engine didn't produce galaxy shaking aftershocks), Galactus served with his Galaxy wide attack to end the threat of the Annihilation wave, and the battle between Scrier, The other and Galactus was in order to show Oblivion schemings. Which is why I initially said that we don't have the large aftershocks for the sake of them alone any longer, like it was the case previously. It doesn't make the characters any less powerful they are merely being portrayed in a different way. But again that is my take on it.

Originally posted by ODG
I don't recall blatantly lying about the context of a fight and then trying to cover up that context when it's pointed out several times. Rachel did not one shot Galactus at all. Don't try to downplay what a blatant liar you are being about this fight. Brian and Kurt fighting isn't the only thing that happens while the Rachel/Galactus fight goes on. Galactus' fight with Rachel takes an entire issue to finish. And during that issue, interspliced with that fight, are scenes cutting away to events in Britain that take place over (at least) several hours. And, no, these aren't flashbacks or flashforwards. The other scenes on Earth are occurring concurrently with the actual fight because every time it cuts from the fight or back to the fight it says, "Meanwhile."

Let's just visit the entire fight so I can limit the amount of time I spend dealing with your blatant lying. Here is where the fight begins where Rachel confronts Galactus and blows up his converter:

The scene then directly cuts "light years away on planet Earth" which shows that they're occurring simultaneously along Rachel's fight, where Kurt and Brian have their sparring session at night in the caverns under Braddock Manor. How do we know that the time-frame remains concurrent for these two events? Because the comic directly cuts back to where Rachel and Galactus' fight rages on with a "Meanwhile..." in the top left corner of that page. So, yes, Rachel and been fighting Galactus the entire time Kurt and Brian had been sparring:

"[b]Meanwhile..."

But it doesn't end there, as the comic makes its second cut to yet another scene on Earth with Micromax to what we assume is that same night from Kurt's and Brian's sparring session and not the next night. As all this is going on, has Rachel ended her fight against Galactus? No. Because the fight once again cuts back to Rachel and Galactus with another "Meanwhile..." in the top left corner of that page signifying their battle has been raging on the entire time we see other events play out on Earth:

"Meanwhile..." [/B]

I'll just take a page out of your book and say "I don't care" how long the fight was so you can keep your extended post essays. If you don't agree then fine but most importantly, save the hypocritical criticism.
My view of Galactus tiring himself out and succumbing/Rachel only being shown actually attacking on one panel throughout is subjective.
So you don't agree, good. That is all. 😎

Originally posted by vansonbee
Anything involving Earth directly, gets a huge nerf.

Indeed

Originally posted by Sundipped
I'll just take a page out of your book and say "I don't care" how long the fight was so you can keep your extended post essays. If you don't agree then fine but most importantly, save the hypocritical criticism.
My view of Galactus tiring himself out and succumbing/Rachel only being shown actually attacking on one panel throughout is subjective.
So you don't agree, good. That is all.
It's not that I don't agree with you. It's that I called you a liar.

And you've done it every time you've mentioned this fight across numerous threads trying to make this out to be some short easy fight that ended with one shot and that somehow that can be held against Galactus in fights of this magnitude.

But I imagine that isn't going to happen anymore, will it?

Originally posted by Utrigita
Where with the exception of the Chaos war, the destruction portrayed in the various sitautions served a purpose. Death destroyed the Canceruniverse effectively ending the threat to the 616 Reality (the battle between multiple Abstract and the Galactus Engine didn't produce galaxy shaking aftershocks), Galactus served with his Galaxy wide attack to end the threat of the Annihilation wave, and the battle between Scrier, The other and Galactus was in order to show Oblivion schemings. Which is why I initially said that we don't have the large aftershocks for the sake of them alone any longer, like it was the case previously. It doesn't make the characters any less powerful they are merely being portrayed in a different way. But again that is my take on it.
I don't see the distinction you're making. But, whatever it is, I just wanted to remind you that the scale of destruction you're reminiscing about in fights at the cosmic level remains at the absurd universe, galaxy and planetary busting levels. How you might treat them differently is your opinion and you've a right to it.
Originally posted by Bentley
The Phoenix Force loses as usual...
Dark Phoenix Cyclops showed no ability to continually amp himself off the "sea of life yet unborn," which is the only reason the Phoenix defeated a hungry Galactus after hours of fighting. And here, Galactus isn't even hungry. So... yea.

just going by cyclops' showing, galactus really doesn't have to try too hard to phuck shit up, even strictly telepathically this goes to galactus.

Originally posted by ODG
I don't see the distinction you're making. But, whatever it is, I just wanted to remind you that the scale of destruction you're reminiscing about in fights at the cosmic level remains at the absurd universe, galaxy and planetary busting levels. How you might treat them differently is your opinion and you've a right to it.

Cool, btw. thanks for showing the Galactus vs Phoenix fight in the "full" length I actually believed that the only fight between them was in those scans and nothing besides that.