There have actually been employers bragging on message boards that they went out to their parking lots, noted all cars with Obama stickers, doctored up or pulled any infractions they could dig up, and fired those employees making sure they couldn't collect unemployment benefits. That was going as far back as the last election. One of these guys' business has never been better than it has in the last four years and actually pays his employees via complex loans while paying himself and his expenses out of the company coffers first (he owns the biggest house in North America).
Elections need major reform in America with the level of corruption but the constant voter suppression and coercion exhibited since 1998 is just beyond the pale. It should legally be considered terrorism and sedition. I mean a country founded on Democracy as a basic principle where you can go to jail for life for smoking pot but if you disenfranchise a million people while running for office you can get elected or just change your name and move?
I really think these crimes should be pursued, all the perpetrators should be charged under the Smith Act and possibly the RICO Act if it was a concerted effort and penalties should start with seizure and auctioning of assets and anywhere between 20 years in prison and the death penalty (where as with my opinion of bankers and CEO's, the severity of punishment should not only match the severity of the crime, but the magnitude as well). I don't even care if it results in the criminalization of both major parties.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Elections need major reform in America with the level of corruption but the constant voter suppression and coercion exhibited since 1998 is just beyond the pale. It should legally be considered terrorism and sedition. I mean a country founded on Democracy as a basic principle where you can go to jail for life for smoking pot but if you disenfranchise a million people while running for office you can get elected or just change your name and move?
I really think these crimes should be pursued, all the perpetrators should be charged under the Smith Act and possibly the RICO Act if it was a concerted effort and penalties should start with seizure and auctioning of assets and anywhere between 20 years in prison and the death penalty (where as with my opinion of bankers and CEO's, the severity of punishment should not only match the severity of the crime, but the magnitude as well). I don't even care if it results in the criminalization of both major parties.
Problem with that, you're essentially asking the people in power to jail themselves.
While 'we' the citizens technically have the power, the fear of debt, instability and not having that 55" flat-screen keeps us in check. If 'we' got our shit together and rose up; demanded change, demanded that these people we entrust to do our will, actually do our will, shit would have to change; that's not happening though.
Well you can start small. If on election day you see assholes with cameras from truth the vote trying to intimidate voters or if your legitimacy is questioned, take pictures, try to get names, call the police, and file reports with both your state bureau of investigation and the FBI. Hell pull a Jon Lovitz and put their pictures up on Twitter.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
So pretty much if you don't vote for Romney and if he doesn't win, you're fired. I know Obama shouldn't be re-elected but that's pretty extreme to make Americans not vote for him in this election. God forbid influencing the public in a good way. No, be a jerk.
Re: A new low even for corporate America
Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
This just makes me sick
The truth makes you sick? "Truth" being that big business will probably suffer more under Obama than Romney?
The Koch brothers did nothing wrong nor are they wrong in what they are telling their employees (about Obama).
I myself and hoping that Romney is elected over Obama because I need more money.
But we need someone even more big-business like than Romney, to be honest. We need someone like Cheney to be president for 8 years. 😐
I expected something much more scandalous than what was in that link.
Assuming that Obama being in office for another four years would indeed put a hurting on big businesses, fact of the matter is that layoffs might be necessary for the sake of the company.
It isn't as simple as "Hurdur you vote for Obama and yer fired". It's simply stating a fact (Or rather, what Koch (hurdur) believes to be fact).
Originally posted by NemeBro
I expected something much more scandalous than what was in that link.Assuming that Obama being in office for another four years would indeed put a hurting on big businesses, fact of the matter is that layoffs might be necessary for the sake of the company.
It isn't as simple as "Hurdur you vote for Obama and yer fired". It's simply stating a fact (Or rather, what Koch (hurdur) believes to be fact).
How dare you post a thought out and even-tempered post on the topic instead of knee-jerk reacting. Obama can do no wrong and he's the best thing there is for big businesses!
Re: Re: A new low even for corporate America
Originally posted by dadudemon
The truth makes you sick? "Truth" being that big business will probably suffer more under Obama than Romney?The Koch brothers did nothing wrong nor are they wrong in what they are telling their employees (about Obama).
I myself and hoping that Romney is elected over Obama because I need more money.
But we need someone even more big-business like than Romney, to be honest. We need someone like Cheney to be president for 8 years. 😐
Bullshit! It isn't about Romney or Obama. It isn't about Republicans or Democrats (who are pretty much the same thing). It's about a large corporation muscling it's employees on how to vote. F.U.C.K. the Koch brothers and all of their ilk. They ARE wrong. And this type of thing should carry criminal consequences.
Re: Re: A new low even for corporate America
Originally posted by dadudemon
I myself and hoping that Romney is elected over Obama because I need more money.
Didn't you say that in your last tax return you actually made money, ie the government paid you to be a smuck.
Obama, helping out thankless smucks since 2008.
Originally posted by Robtard
Didn't you say that in your last tax return you actually made money, ie the government paid you to be a smuck.Obama, helping out thankless smucks since 2008.
The reason I got money would still be in place even after Romney is elected. And unless he pulls a Bush Sr., I may even get less of a tax burden. WEEEEE!
Also, those tax cuts for me...are there...mostly from Bush's days.
Now who's the schmuck?
Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
Bullshit! It isn't about Romney or Obama. It isn't about Republicans or Democrats (who are pretty much the same thing). It's about a large corporation muscling it's employees on how to vote. F.U.C.K. the Koch brothers and all of their ilk. They ARE wrong. And this type of thing should carry criminal consequences.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
It is a bit ridiculous: "Vote how we say or you will lose your job." Shame veiled threats don't equate to legally enforceable threats.
It does not appear that either of you two read the news article posted in the opening post.
Originally posted by dadudemon
The reason I got money would still be in place even after Romney is elected. And unless he pulls a Bush Sr., I may even get less of a tax burden. WEEEEE!Also, those tax cuts for me...are there...mostly from Bush's days.
Now who's the schmuck?
Yup, would just kill you to admit Obama is better for the middle-class. It's okay, he doesn't demand your thanks, smuck.