Originally posted by abhilegendproof that SS dreams? And so your saying if Hulk or ironman weren't holding back in those instances, events would have carried out exactly the same? Not at all, you are denying that in a situation with two different variables (holding back or not) that the outcome will be the same, that's ridiculous.
Agree to disagree bud.
He does dream, this is one of those. Superman beats the phuck out of him in reality. Read thor and superman comics to find out. One sentence doesn't retcons entire history of iron man and hulk. Try something else.
Originally posted by armedforbattle
proof that SS dreams? And so your saying if Hulk or ironman weren't holding back in those instances, events would have carried out exactly the same? Not at all, you are denying that in a situation with two different variables (holding back or not) that the outcome will be the same, that's ridiculous.
Would if during the civil war (the real one, not comics) the south had won? Would America still be same? Not a friggin chance. You are denying basic knowledge.
Originally posted by abhilegendalright, you provided solid evidence of as having dreams. Thank you.
He slleps and had dreams of his father killing his world when he was nearly killed in infinity crusade. Ther you go. Yeah, they were not holding back in those situations. One writer doesn't change the entire history of a character. You think Iron man or mindless hulk were holding themselves back when mindless hulk was rampaging? Use some common sense.
Yes, ironman has never went morals off on hulk, because he knows that it is still Bruce banner in there.
Your the one that said "hulk addmitted, he has always held back" now your saying he didn't? Which is it
Originally posted by abhilegend
He slleps and had dreams of his father killing his world when he was nearly killed in infinity crusade. Ther you go. Yeah, they were not holding back in those situations. One writer doesn't change the entire history of a character. You think Iron man or mindless hulk were holding themselves back when mindless hulk was rampaging? Use some common sense.
One writer doesn't change the entire history of a character? Are you sure you want to stick with that argument?
Originally posted by carver9
One writer doesn't change the entire history of a character? Are you sure you want to stick with that argument?
Actually it's in history. Thanos was cut and hurt by lesser attacks before. Masterson looked also very good against Thanos. He was just gangraped. This can happen to a lot of Heralds or Trans chars.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Actually it's in history. Thanos was cut and hurt by lesser attacks before. Masterson looked also very good against Thanos. He was just gangraped. This can happen to a lot of Heralds or Trans chars.
I agree with Thanos. People always said he could take out a powerful team without backing it up (and Thanos never showed anything on panel "under his own power proving he could take out teams, especially team of Heralds). What I am saying is "abhi argument can be used against him".
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with Thanos. People always said he could take out a powerful team without backing it up (and Thanos never showed anything on panel "under his own power proving he could take out teams, especially team of Heralds). What I am saying is "abhi argument can be used against him".
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Yeah Thanos is a powerhouse and can take on Heralds individualy or maybe even at 2 or three, but his chances drop fast. He is the cunning fighter who preps to win fights and not a brute Teamwrecker like Hulk.
Originally posted by armedforbattle
alright, you provided solid evidence of as having dreams. Thank you.Yes, ironman has never went morals off on hulk, because he knows that it is still Bruce banner in there.
Your the one that said "hulk addmitted, he has always held back" now your saying he didn't? Which is it
He went all out and nearly killed himself against savage hulk. You don't have to kill to go all out.
I used the reference to show that one writer making hulk or iron man say that he always holds back against one character when history shows otherwise is inaccurate.
Ironman is a factor, against Hulk (seen him brought up) AND Superman...he isn't beating either though. The ONLY reason I am giving this to Superman is because of my lack of faith with Thor recently. Once we get the old Thor back, this would more than likely be a stomp since I am not using 1 showing of Superman to aid in giving him a majority against Thor...especially when I know this showing will contradict everything else.
Looking at everything as a whole, Thor is above this Supes but I keep picturing Superman tossing a bus at Thor koing him (yeah, its that bad). So until I see more from current Thor, Superman wins after a long fight.
Originally posted by armedforbattle
Done here. We are getting no where.
I think team wins.
You think supes wins.
Clearly neither of us are changing our minds.
Originally posted by carver9
Ironman is a factor, against Hulk (seen him brought up) AND Superman...he isn't beating either though. The ONLY reason I am giving this to Superman is because of my lack of faith with Thor recently. Once we get the old Thor back, this would more than likely be a stomp since I am not using 1 showing of Superman to aid in giving him a majority against Thor...especially when I know this showing will contradict everything else.Looking at everything as a whole, Thor is above this Supes but I keep picturing Superman tossing a bus at Thor koing him (yeah, its that bad). So until I see more from current Thor, Superman wins after a long fight.