Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're dead to me. It's like I don't know who you are anymore.When was the last time Cyclops had a good showing with his eye beams?
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AVX I guess, when he somehow managed to knock Captain America back.... Seriously though, might have to go back to Astonishing X-Men for a really solid feat.
Originally posted by -Pr-
AVX alone doesn't discount the past fifty years. Or even the last ten.
All throughout the Event, Namor was absolutely humiliated. Luke Cage even got some licks in.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Namor's fight with Thing wasn't written by a top writer, though. Not to mention that most AvX fights sucked ass.You realize that nobody is agreeing with you on that?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Namor looked superior to silver surfer in THE event of marvel one year before. He's officially trans tier and Thing is skyfather level now. Using a single fight to determine power level is silly or should we bump Black Widow to above hell lord level now? She beat magik in her own dimension worse than Thing who pinned namor after he stunned himself swinging a big ass fish.
Point is, Illyana was fighting like a moron. She didn't armor up, she didn't summon her demon horde, etc.. She could have blinked BW out of existence if she wanted to but didn't. Namor was being Namor and he STILL lost.
Back to the thread, AM slaughters Cyclops.
Originally posted by zopzop
But it sort of does.
No, it really doesn't.
Originally posted by zopzop
Luke Cage even got some licks in.
So? He did the same against Ethan 😬
Originally posted by zopzop
They don't have to agree. It is what it is. And don't get me started on how Luke Cage bloodied Namor (while he was in the water).
He also bloodied Ethan Edwards. Beast bloodied WWH... do I need to go on?
Originally posted by zopzop
But it sort of does. AvX changed a lot of things over at Marvel (the dissolution of the X-Men being the major one). Every SINGLE ONE of Marvel's top writers were in on this event. This isn't like Joe Schmoe writing an issue of the Fantastic Four that has Thing beating up on Namor.All throughout the Event, Namor was absolutely humiliated. Luke Cage even got some licks in.
They don't have to agree. It is what it is. And don't get me started on how Luke Cage bloodied Namor (while he was in the water).
Surfer is probably the most pathetic High Herald out there. So bringing him up to prove a point gets you nowhere with me. Sorry.
Point is, Illyana was fighting like a moron. She didn't armor up, she didn't summon her demon horde, etc.. She could have blinked BW out of existence if she wanted to but didn't. Namor was being Namor and he STILL lost.
Back to the thread, AM slaughters Cyclops.
It might change things in Marvel (I don't think it does, but tbh I'm not going to argue it), but it doesn't change things on this forum. Namor's feats from before AVX are still valid, and contribute to an average that puts him well above the likes of Thing.
As off topic as that is...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He wants to get banned for trolling, that is why.
Zop Zop...Why do you cling to one showing?
Wait and see.
Originally posted by zopzop
How about you mind your own business and let the mods do their job? Thanks.
I have a better idea; stop trolling, plain and simple.
Originally posted by zopzop
It wasn't just that ONE showing Carver, that's the whole point. Also AvX changed the landscape over at Marvel, it wasn't just some random, meaningless issue. It was THE event. I bet you my life, next time Namor makes an appearance, it won't be against a Hulk level foe and it will be a close fight.Wait and see.
He had only one poor showing in that event, actually.
OMFG Captain America and Nick Fury solo'd U-Foes in Siege! That must mean U-Foes are street levelers now! 😱
Originally posted by zopzop
No one is trolling you, get over yourself.
You've been trolling the entire vs. forum since AvX... 😬
Originally posted by zopzop
whistling
So? He beat Cage eventually and used his body as a club to one-shot She-Hulk...
Modern Cage has had some impressive showings, so I don't see the problem.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, back on topic please.
K.
* Cyclops can blast away super strong guys like Ord, Javitz (Acolyte), regular Sentinels and pierce a hole through Blob's shoulders... cracking Onslaught's armor, leveling a giant Sentinel and a part of the forest behind it, and blasting a bio-engineered monster in half...
* been able to slow down a charging Juggernaut, Cap Britain and Hulk but not stopping them, peels off (or burn through friction maybe, since the blasts are heatless) Hulk's skin... means they've been able to tank Scott's blasts...
* with Aquaman's recent showings, i think he can tank the blasts plenty of time for him to get close to Scott and pummel him... Aquaman's strength is very remarkable nowadays and as much as i want to say Scott will take this, i can't think of any class 100 he had blown away in the past...
* the only possibility is that we were just given a hint that because of his reserved character and a damaged part of his brain (retconned into a self-induced mental trauma), he is using only a fraction of his supposed limitless power source... which for me, is quite logical since Havok has been able to go toe-to-toe against an Omega-level Vulcan... i just can't believe that the eldest Summers has the weakest power...