Rank these guys in physical strength

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Belt of Strength gives Thor a quantifiable strength amp the likes of which OF Thor doesn't really have or at least displayed on panel.

That said, OF Thor has crazy durability and overall power output and would clearly merc BoS Thor.

I was referring to ranking Warrior Madness Thor above BoS Thor. What's the justification for that? He's never displayed a level of strength twice as great as Thor's own at that level. Neither did Green Scar until he hit World Breaker. Twice of Thor's total strength is a ridiculous amount of muscle power.

You're referring to Odin Force Thor I take it? if so, I can maybe see why you'd rank him below Thor with BoS but below Warrior Madness or Green Scar Thor? That's a bit ridiculous. Thor as he was in the Bor fight was clearly intended to be beyond herald level comfortably.

Here's my revised list:
WBH
Thor w/ Belt of Strength/Odin Force Thor
WWH/Warrior's Madness Thor
Savage Hulk >= Thor/Hercules
Red Hulk
Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I was referring to ranking Warrior Madness Thor above BoS Thor. What's the justification for that? He's never displayed a level of strength twice as great as Thor's own at that level. Neither did Green Scar until he hit World Breaker. Twice of Thor's total strength is a ridiculous amount of muscle power.

You're referring to Odin Force Thor I take it? if so, I can maybe see why you'd rank him below Thor with BoS but below Warrior Madness or Green Scar Thor? That's a bit ridiculous. Thor as he was in the Bor fight was clearly intended to be beyond herald level comfortably.

Here's my revised list:
WBH
Thor w/ Belt of Strength/Odin Force Thor
WWH/Warrior's Madness Thor
Savage Hulk >= Thor/Hercules
Red Hulk
Silver Surfer

I was also going under the assumption of the "x10" amp true Warrior's Madness is supposed to give, not all the times it was revealed not to be Warrior's Madness.

Also, I tried to base this solely off of physical strength and not other factors. If this was an overall formidable list, mine would be different.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I was also going under the assumption of the "x10" amp true Warrior's Madness is supposed to give, not all the times it was revealed not to be Warrior's Madness.

Also, I tried to base this solely off of physical strength and not other factors. If this was an overall formidable list, mine would be different.

Then why the is he on par with World War Hulk? He'd be on par or greater than tWorld Breaker Hulk instead of World War Hulk, and that doesn't explain why Thor with the BoS is ranked below that incarnation of the Hulk along with Odin Force Thor. I read every single issue of that event with Hulk in it and nothing (Even that fight with Sentry) approaches a level greater than twice as strong as Thor or a Thor that could go toe to toe with a being that could one shot his classic incarnation.

Thor was obviously not just more powerful but noticeably stronger in his fight with Bor.

I'm not trying to be an ass, but I honestly don't think some of your rankings hold up to scrutiny.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Then why the is he on par with World War Hulk? He'd be a lot closer to World Breaker Hulk than World War Hulk, and that doesn't explain why Thor with the BoS is ranked below that incarnation of the Hulk along with Odin Force Thor. I read every single issue of that event with Hulk in it and nothing (Even that fight with Sentry) approaches a level greater than twice as strong as Thor or a Thor that could go toe to toe with a being that could one shot his classic incarnation.

Thor was obviously not just more powerful but noticeably stronger in his fight with Bor.

I think the lines between raw physical strength and the striking power of Mjolnir, let alone amped by the Odin Force, can be a bit murky, hence my reasoning. Plus Hulk's footsteps while holding back suggest a greater level of strength than Thor.

Based on the incarnations, you're using, this is more accurate imho:
Warrior Madness Thor (The theoretical x10)
World Breaker Hulk
Thor w/ Belt of Strength/Odin Force Thor
WWH/Warrior Madness Thor (Regular)
Savage Hulk >= Thor/Hercules
Red Hulk
Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Based on the incarnations, you're using, this is more accurate imho:
Warrior Madness Thor (The theoretical x10)
World Breaker Hulk
Thor w/ Belt of Strength/Odin Force Thor
WWH/Warrior Madness Thor (Regular)
Savage Hulk >= Thor/Hercules
Red Hulk
Silver Surfer

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think the lines between raw physical strength and the striking power of Mjolnir, let alone amped by the Odin Force, can be a bit murky, hence my reasoning. Plus Hulk's footsteps while holding back suggest a greater level of strength than Thor.

That's a useless distinction to make, Odin Force Thor is Thor amped by the Odin Force.

What's murky? Thor stopped a blow (Granted with Mjolnir but still) from Bor's weapon that he admitted could have killed his classic incarnation. He then goes to stop that same weapon with his bare hands. Thor then proceeds to hit Bor so hard that he breaks Mjolnir and kills Bor, a being described as being more durable than enchanted Uru.

There's nothing to be unclear about, Odin Force Thor (At least when he's actually tapping into that power) is beyond Herald level and even World War Hulk (Different from World Breaker).

A greater level of strength than what incarnation of Thor? Certainly not the Warrior Madness Thor with a ten times strength increase. That's such a ridiculous boost that even destroying a planet by punching someone in the face would be small potatoes.

None of this still explains why you ranked World War Hulk above Odin Force Thor, BoS Thor and on par with Warrior Madness Thor who according to you is ten times stronger than classic Thor. Certainly you don't think Green Scar displayed that level of strength in that event. In fact, I'm pretty sure you don't because:
A) You're smart, not dumb.
B) He didn't.

Originally posted by Badabing
No.

Shut up.

Originally posted by Badabing
No.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Based on the incarnations, you're using, this is more accurate imho:
Warrior Madness Thor (The theoretical x10)
World Breaker Hulk
Thor w/ Belt of Strength/Odin Force Thor
WWH/Warrior Madness Thor (Regular)
Savage Hulk >= Thor/Hercules
Red Hulk
Silver Surfer

You are drunk.

Originally posted by carver9
You are drunk.

What do you disagree with Carver? What do you think isn't supported by evidence?

You don't think Thor with twice the strength is above World War Hulk? Based on what? Sure potentially he can get stronger I guess but during the event, he just didn't exhibit that level of power. At twice his strength level, Thor would punch Hercules and Sentry's head's off.

You don't think Odin Force Thor was stronger than World War Hulk? He was on a level that could one shot classic Thor. Probably hyperbolic but you get the idea.

You don't think Thor with 10 times the strength increase was above the levels shown in HoTM? Why exactly? This Thor has never been shown on panel (Which is why I dislike using him by Jake ranked him and it's his prerogative) but with 10 times the strength? What Hulk showed during that arc would be nothing, baby food, a f*cking warm up exercise. Wrap your head around ten times the strength of Thor.

What you are failing to realize is...the Hulk during WWH existed AFTER that arc as well.

You ranking him above WBH is Looney. I and of course YOU can't picture Thor with a single punch cloud height destroying a planet, moons, the mindless ones, Wendigo, Armaggedon, (a legit hh Herald), Bi Beast, and some trolls. Get out of here with that non sense.

Yes, Thor was strong but in a physical fight against WBH, he would get decimated. Looking at WWH fts, thunderclapping an amped, full powered Rulk to sleep puts him EXACTLY where Jake placed him at.

Carver, you carved him up good.

Originally posted by carver9
What you are failing to realize is...the Hulk during WWH existed AFTER that arc as well.

You ranking him above WBH is Looney. I and of course YOU can't picture Thor with a single punch cloud height destroying a planet, moons, the mindless ones, Wendigo, Armaggedon, (a legit hh Herald), Bi Beast, and some trolls. Get out of here with that non sense.

Yes, Thor was strong but in a physical fight against WBH, he would get decimated. Looking at WWH fts, thunderclapping an amped, full powered Rulk to sleep puts him EXACTLY where Jake placed him at.

Sure he did, but he was at his peak during that arc (Not counting World Breaker mode) and the thread starter specified "World War Hulk" not Green Scar, so even if you disagree, it's moot.

Why is that? Thor with ten times the strength would do all that shit effortlessly. I know you're not good with numbers -especially degrees- but do you not realize how ridiculously high Thor's strength is at ten times the level? Could World Breaker get stronger than this Thor? I guess, but based on what was shown, this theoretical version of Thor is above World Breaker at those levels. Destroying a planet and killing heralds while colliding with a peer? Easily within that range. But again, none of this is concrete because it's a Thor we've never seen and for good reason, such an amp would never be accurately portrayed. I won't fault you for not seeing eye to eye with me here -as much- for this reason.

Which Thor would get decimated by World Breaker Hulk? I can't read your mind so be more specific, if you're referring to the 10x Thor, then you're loopy.

Not relevant to this thread because not only wasn't that Hulk from World War Hulk, but he had just received an enormous boost in power. Banner had absorbed all of the energy of the World Breaker Hulk, plus all the energy Rulk stored from his encounters with Thor, Silver Surfer, the Watcher and all the other beings he had fought (Minus the energy used to transform Rulk). Besides, it's still not greater than Odin Force Thor, or something that places him above twice of Thor's strength.

I'd like to see you work out the numbers that prove Thor at ten times his strength could replicate Hulk's HOTM feat.

Thanksgiving came early this year.

Originally posted by Mindset
Thanksgiving came early this year.

This passes as Thanksgiving to you? My friend, you must lead a very sad and lonely life.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'd like to see you work out the numbers that prove Thor at ten times his strength could replicate Hulk's HOTM feat.

Sorry bro, I don't care that much about this thread to do math. The best I'll do is see where you stand on Thor strength wise and if you think ten times that can replicate what was shown, then great, if not, then whatever. Either way, it's definitely above World War Hulk levels, which is what my initial grip was.

Originally posted by Mindset
Carver, you carved him up good.

Originally posted by Mindset
Thanksgiving came early this year.

You're a turkey.

Do I have to explain everything.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Sorry bro, I don't care that much about this thread to do math. The best I'll do is see where you stand on Thor strength wise and if you think ten times that can replicate what was shown, then great, if not, then whatever. Either way, it's definitely above World War Hulk levels, which is what my initial grip was.

I personally suspect the forces required would be somewhere between moving Earth to Mars (IIRC like 1. some amount of numbers with a scientific notation of 32, a full order of magnitude above planet busting), and crazy shit like Superboy Prime breaking planets with other planets or tossing AM to the far corners of the universe.

Agree to disagree and all that jazz Carver. I have to go. Just to be clear, this isn't permission for you to type any outrageous bullshit you want. I very might well reply when I have the time.

Originally posted by Mindset
You're a turkey.

Do I have to explain everything.

I figured that's what you were going for but I didn't care either way. Because that's the way I roll. /internettoughguy