Wolverine vs T-1000

Started by Robtard24 pages

Originally posted by FrothByte
THe big difference here is that Wolverine has been knocked out by hits that the T1000 has walked through.

Wolverine gets knocked out by a single bullet, T1000 suffers a headshot and just walks through it.

Wolverine gets knocked out by stabbing himself, T1000 gets a steel pole slashing him in two and he regenerates and he's fully functional 2 secs later.

So? Might as well say "Superman was taken out by kryptonite, therefore the T-1000 > him."

Wolverine's also not been knocked out by far worse than a bullet crushing against his nigh indestructible skull.

T-1000 was effectively knocked out; Wolverine can levy more damage and faster than seven grapefruit sized dents in it's body. Ergo, Wolverine can win via knockout the same way the T-1000 can here.

He has never walked through being cuts to littles pieces.
Last time we saw T1000 reduced to little bits it took him a while because of his non functioning capacity to reform.

T1000 suffered a head shot that messed it up outside that hospital lift... split its head right down the middle and seemed helpless so it dropped back to regen.

But then again wolverine endured worse and remained conscious.
The T1000 was never cut in two. It had a cut into it but it didnt seperate. Wolverine would thoroughly seperate it. Ensuring Post thaw style shut down level regen. Win to Wolverine by KO.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He has never walked through being cuts to littles pieces.
Last time we saw T1000 reduced to little bits it took him a while because of his non functioning capacity to reform.

T1000 suffered a head shot that messed it up outside that hospital lift... split its head right down the middle and seemed helpless so it dropped back to regen.

But then again wolverine endured worse and remained conscious.
The T1000 was never cut in two. It had a cut into it but it didnt seperate. Wolverine would thoroughly seperate it. Ensuring Post thaw style shut down level regen. Win to Wolverine by KO.

Wolverine has also never walked through being cut into little pieces. And the T1000 cut into pieces, that had the addition of being frozen in liquid nitrogen. You still have no proof that the T1000 can be "cut into pieces" and not easily heal from it without liquid nitrogen affecting him.

Wolverine might have suffered worse and remained conscious (although I'm pretty sure only the phoenix stint was worse unless you can give examples) but he has also suffered far less and gotten beat up. Wolverine has far more low showings than he has high showings. So stop pretending like he's invincible.

Originally posted by Robtard
So? Might as well say "Superman was taken out by kryptonite, therefore the T-1000 > him."

Wolverine's also not been knocked out by far worse than a bullet crushing against his nigh indestructible skull.

T-1000 was effectively knocked out; Wolverine can levy more damage and faster than seven grapefruit sized dents in it's body. Ergo, Wolverine can win via knockout the same way the T-1000 can here.

Superman was taken out by kryptonite and if the T1000 had kryptonite he'd take down Superman.

Wolverine was taken out by a handgun shot to the head. The T1000 can take out WOlverine if he had a hand gun.

Wolverine was taken out by a stab through the chest. THe T1000 can take him out if he stabs him through the chest.

Yes the T1000 was effectively knocked out, but Wolverine has also been knocked out. WOlverine has suffered worse and survived, but he's also suffered far less and got beaten up. Wolverine has far more low showings than the T1000.

Point I'm trying to make here is yes, they both can knock each other out. Just so happens that Wolverine is PROVEN to be easier to knock out than the T1000.

Your "slicing and dicing" strategy for the T1000? Guess what, never been proven to work. Not unless you include liquid nitrogen into the mix.

The "stab through the chest" strategy that I'm stating for the T1000 to win? Guess what, proven to work on Wolverine.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Wolverine has also never walked through being cut into little pieces. And the T1000 cut into pieces, that had the addition of being frozen in liquid nitrogen. You still have no proof that the T1000 can be "cut into pieces" and not easily heal from it without liquid nitrogen affecting him.

Wolverine might have suffered worse and remained conscious (although I'm pretty sure only the phoenix stint was worse unless you can give examples) but he has also suffered far less and gotten beat up. Wolverine has far more low showings than he has high showings. So stop pretending like he's invincible.

What's a low showing?

Being knocked out cos he took a bullet to the skull?

Being knocked out or possibly killed cos he was stabbed directly into the heart and lungs?

Being KO'd or possibility killed cos he took a bullet directly to the frontal lobe?

Being killed cos he had a massively invasive surgery where molten hot liquid alloy was grafted onto every square inch of his skeleton?

Cos if those are his "low showings", he's pretty bad-ass.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Superman was taken out by kryptonite and if the T1000 had kryptonite he'd take down Superman.

Wolverine was taken out by a handgun shot to the head. The T1000 can take out WOlverine if he had a hand gun.

Wolverine was taken out by a stab through the chest. THe T1000 can take him out if he stabs him through the chest.

Yes the T1000 was effectively knocked out, but Wolverine has also been knocked out. WOlverine has suffered worse and survived, but he's also suffered far less and got beaten up. Wolverine has far more low showings than the T1000.

Point I'm trying to make here is yes, they both can knock each other out. Just so happens that Wolverine is PROVEN to be easier to knock out than the T1000.

Your "slicing and dicing" strategy for the T1000? Guess what, never been proven to work. Not unless you include liquid nitrogen into the mix.

The "stab through the chest" strategy that I'm stating for the T1000 to win? Guess what, proven to work on Wolverine.

Arguable. I'd side with Superman, but that's just me. But the point was to show that your A B C logic is faulty here.

Arguable. As Wolverine's taken a shot to the head by Agent Zero (who is millions of times more accurate then can't-aim-for-shit T-1000) and not been knocked out.

Arguable. T-1000 would have to avoid Wolverince's own swipes which would cut him to pieces and then he'd had to have perfect aim to get through the rib cage.

Yes, they both can win here via KO.

Seven shotgun blast KO'd him and all they did was cause grapefruit sized dents. Being sliced to pieces is more damaging.

Agreed. But see above. It's not like Wolverine is going to be standing still and he's shown the capability to slice apart people trying to attack. Those claws are there for a reason.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Wolverine has also never walked through being cut into little pieces. And the T1000 cut into pieces, that had the addition of being frozen in liquid nitrogen. You still have no proof that the T1000 can be "cut into pieces" and not easily heal from it without liquid nitrogen affecting him.

Well durr...Because nothing CAN cut Wolverine to pieces. 🙄
We do,actually. A shotgun shell (less sharp that a wolverine claw) severed its hook/arm and it just waited like a dumbass on the floor til T1000 could walk over to it and recollect it. If wolverine can cut T1000 into 8 with two slashes, T1000 is just gonna continue to get torn apart.
Wolverine wins both both TKO, but KO too, due to the withdraw/shutdown regen that T1000 would totally face having to divert it's energies to try to form with parts all over the place.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Do you honestly think he could survive the molten metal? If so what's the evidence. Or are you going for a no limits fallacy? [/B]

Watch Terminator Salvation.
Pay attention to the T800 surviving molten metal dunking and the contrast of extreme cold afterwards (something we know for fact that the T1000 couldnt do... if it could do it, since Admantium is stronger than the stuff that the Terminators are built from, Wolverine's indestructable admantium skeleton could and his as-long-as-a-cell-remains regen would take care of the rest. (as we know from the operation where the liquid metal admantium was grafted onto his bones...) Ergo Wolverine could handle molten metal better than T1000.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ergo Wolverine could handle molten metal better than T1000.

I know this is only the movie vs

but Wolvie has survived molten metal pool in the comics.

There ya go. 🙂 The movie evidence would seem to confirm their position.

I'm sure there's scans in his respect thread but i can't find it at the moment.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Watch Terminator Salvation.
Pay attention to the T800 surviving molten metal dunking and the contrast of extreme cold afterwards (something we know for fact that the T1000 couldnt do... if it could do it, since Admantium is stronger than the stuff that the Terminators are built from, Wolverine's indestructable admantium skeleton could and his as-long-as-a-cell-remains regen would take care of the rest. (as we know from the operation where the liquid metal admantium was grafted onto his bones...) Ergo Wolverine could handle molten metal better than T1000.

His skeleton could. His flesh would be burned off in seconds.

And movie Logan =/= comic Logan

And new would regen in as much time, judging by X3 feats.

Still enough to tank T1000, im afraid. Especially as even the most severe burn victims retain enough DNA to be identified.

Originally posted by Psychotron
His skeleton could. His flesh would be burned off in seconds.

And then he'd heal from it and continue fighting.

yup.

But tis all a peripheral affair though, cause Slashity slashity slash slash Mc Slashity scenario rules all. Diced T1000 FTW.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And new would regen in as much time, judging by X3 feats.

Still enough to tank T1000, im afraid. Especially as even the most severe burn victims retain enough DNA to be identified.

Originally posted by Robtard
And then he'd heal from it and continue fighting.

Lol based on what? Wolverine's never been that damaged and molten metal is quite a bit hotter than your usual fire. It would make no sense to come back from nothing anyway but a skeleton anyway.

He was doing quite fine against Dark Phoenix even she may have been holding back.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Lol based on what? Wolverine's never been that damaged and molten metal is quite a bit hotter than your usual fire. It would make no sense to come back from nothing anyway but a skeleton anyway.

logan's fight with phoenix in X3 proves he can come back from anything as it was shown he was instantly regenning as he was going towards her

Originally posted by Psychotron
Lol based on what? Wolverine's never been that damaged and molten metal is quite a bit hotter than your usual fire. It would make no sense to come back from nothing anyway but a skeleton anyway.

Lots of stuff doesnt make sense:
Like how the fleshless T1000 time travelled anyways being that the primary reason the T800 never bought back and advanced tech to 1984 or 1994 was that "It was something about the field generated by a living organism: Nothing dead would go" etc etc

And much of all other fantasy scifi, but it is what it is.

Also, what Bruce and Kaz said.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Lots of stuff doesnt make sense:
Like how the fleshless T1000 time travelled anyways being that the primary reason the T800 never bought back and advanced tech to 1984 or 1994 was that "It was something about the field generated by a living organism: Nothing dead would go" etc etc

And much of all other fantasy scifi, but it is what it is.

Also, what Bruce and Kaz said.

That's not really the same thing.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
logan's fight with phoenix in X3 proves he can come back from anything as it was shown he was instantly regenning as he was going towards her
Originally posted by Kazenji
He was doing quite fine against Dark Phoenix even she may have been holding back.

You guys are not getting it. Logan still had flesh on him when he was healing from Dark Phoenix. She wasn't atomizing all of him at the same time. If he was dropped in molten metal all of his flesh would be burning at once, there would be nothing to regen from.