The Legend of Conan

Started by Stealth Moose4 pages

Hrm, interesting. I had no idea they were doing such a thing. Pretty sure Arnold's washed up though. His recent roles have been lackluster, and he's entirely out of shape, not counting his heart condition.

I think the first film is really really good. Destroyer was alright, but doesn't deserve some of the hate it gets; neither did the reboot.

I hated Destroyer, Just didn't have the same feel as the first one.

A woman is writing Conan? It's doomed. Arnold is in good enough shape to play an old king going out for one final battle though.

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Whats wrong with a woman writing the story?

Originally posted by Kazenji
Whats wrong with a woman writing the story?

Conan is an uber-masculine swords and sorcery movie. Women aren't good with any of that.

Guess you haven't read many stories then.

I'm speaking of the movies.

Still doesn't the fact.

Which fact?

Honestly, Conan the Barbarian was all about machismo and übermensch behaviors. While women can conceivably write such things, it does seem out of character and at the moment I can't think of anything comparable. When was the last time a woman brought such a thing to the big screen as a writer?

None to my knowledge.

So you agree?

Originally posted by Psychotron
Conan is an uber-masculine swords and sorcery movie. Women aren't good with any of that.

Alot of people complained that Punisher: Warzone was too violent & hardcore.

Did you know that a woman directed the movie?

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Alot of people complained that Punisher: Warzone was too violent & hardcore.

Did you know that a woman directed the movie?

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She's a German fighter, and so gets a pass. (Or is it fight-ress?)

Also, Warzone was written by three dudes, which is still the consideration here. There's no general argument that women can't write a male-oriented flick; rather, there's serious doubt that any woman can identify enough to emulate what the original film created. Hell, there's leagues of male writers who can't do that.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

there's serious doubt that any woman can identify enough to emulate what the original film created.

I think, maybe you're holding the original in too much a high esteem.

It was good for its time but hardly did the novels justice.

I'm not in ignorance of the novels and the differences. However, Conan the Barbarian is an epic piece and defined sword and sorcery in the early 80s. It has a very definite energy and atmosphere which is not easily replicated. The sequel utterly failed to capture the same thing, and the reboot didn't even try.

There's a lot below the surface, and I'm not the first to say as much.

Conan the Barbarian and Psychoanalysis.

That's just one viewpoint. I've read others, but I can't find them easily at the moment, which go into more detail, or talk about Conan (man) killing Thulsa Doom (God) and replacing him. The film, despite its flaws, speaks to people on many levels, and specifically men.

So the point remains, for a woman to successfully write a sequel to this film, it would be rather surprising. Writing is directed by individual thought patterns, and it takes a considerable amount of self control, introspection, and empathy to write someone who isn't anything at all like yourself, especially if that person is amoral by your standards.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

So the point remains, for a woman to successfully write a sequel to this film, it would be rather surprising. Writing is directed by individual thought patterns, and it takes a considerable amount of self control, introspection, and empathy to write someone who isn't anything at all like yourself, especially if that person is amoral by your standards.

But by those standards, a writer can only write about murder, if they've murdered themselves.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

Conan the Barbarian and Psychoanalysis.

That's just one viewpoint.

Too much emphasis on Conan's silence meaning repression & uncertainty to trust...?

We're talking about Schwarzenegger, whose early films had little dialogue due to his lack of english speaking skills.

There's nothing to psychoanalyse about that!

Originally posted by Psychotron
So you agree?

Agree that your wrong?....then yes.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
But by those standards, a writer can only write about murder, if they've murdered themselves.

My post implied nothing of the sort. Reread it again.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Too much emphasis on Conan's silence meaning repression & uncertainty to trust...?

We're talking about Schwarzenegger, whose early films had little dialogue due to his lack of english speaking skills.

There's nothing to psychoanalyse about that!

Do you even know what psychoanalysis is about?