Originally posted by vince_slice
Well Scrier did create a thousand Silver Surfers and a thousand Thors. I think that's worth something.
Why would he need anything from Surfer if he can create a 1000 of him at the drop of a hat?
All 3 of them failed to do any lasting damage to each other, and their battle nearly threatened to destroy the multiverse. That's a stalemate there, alright.
Tenebrous on the other hand needed Aegis' help to take down a weakened Galactus. A well-conditioned Galactus almost drove the Proemial Gods to extinction ages past. Go figure.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
All 3 of them failed to do any lasting damage to each other, and their battle nearly threatened to destroy the multiverse. That's a stalemate there, alright.Tenebrous on the other hand needed Aegis' help to take down a weakened Galactus. A well-conditioned Galactus almost drove the Proemial Gods to extinction ages past. Go figure.
Tenebrous seemed to be getting the better of Galactus in their one-on-one battle. Sure, it was an ambush but I don't remember any mention of Galactus being weakened. At any rate, there's absolutely no evidence that Scrier would easily beat Tenebrous as you claimed.
^Nope, they were on even ground during their battle. If anything, it was Galactus who was getting the better of the Proemial God.
I recall that it was mentioned in another thread that Galactus was still weakened because of his prior encounters with Hunger and those "Hunters" against whom he amped up Surfer. I'll dig up the info soon enough.
Meh, maybe not easily, but I think that he'll still end up coming out the victor here.
Scrier needed Surfer's help to banish the Other. If he was so powerful why would he need a herald level beings help in banishing a peer?
Scrier and Other are all talk. The two of them couldn't overpower Galactus, while T&A crushed him and Surfer.
This is more than either Scrier or the Other did vs Galactus :
Galactus' armor is actually damaged and cracked.
Originally posted by zopzopThe same reason Surfer can destroy both Tenebrous and Aegis... plot.
Scrier needed Surfer's help to banish the Other. If he was so powerful why would he need a herald level beings help in banishing a peer?
It'd be a boring Surfer story if he help in no way at all. Plus, it'd be a hell of a Surfer feat if he actually added in any real way to the dimension wall building... I mean, we all saw how Surfer did against the Other... and it was way worse than he did against Aegis, or TnA at the same time.
Scrier also porked Mephisto pretty badly once he stopped "manipulating".
EDIT: It says Galactus was caught off guard. And caught off guard on a planet which seems to imply...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Tenebrous%20Aegis/galactusoffguard.jpg
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The same reason Surfer can destroy both Tenebrous and Aegis... plot.It'd be a boring Surfer story if he help in no way at all. Plus, it'd be a hell of a Surfer feat if he actually added in any real way to the dimension wall building... I mean, we all saw how Surfer did against the Other... and it was way worse than he did against Aegis, or TnA at the same time.
Scrier also porked Mephisto pretty badly once he stopped "manipulating".
Scrier, on the other hand, actually needed the Surfer's, a mere high herald, power to back him up in dealing with the Other.
Scrier and the Other combined did nothing to Galactus. Teneberous ALONE was beating the sh|t out of Galactus. He wrecked his armor and caused him to bleed energy.
Originally posted by zopzop
Not really. It was sheer luck that they were right by the Big Crunch. Surfer did nothing except channel that power into them, destroying their M-bodies. We know they didn't really die because they showed up in Annihilation.Scrier, on the other hand, actually needed the Surfer's, a mere high herald, power to back him up in dealing with the Other.
Scrier and the Other combined did nothing to Galactus. Teneberous ALONE was beating the sh|t out of Galactus. He wrecked his armor and caused him to bleed energy.
And it was sheer luck that Surfer had Scrier on his side when the Other showed up. Amirite? Although I'd like to think that Surfer taking on 2 high level entities by himself is a little worse than Surfer taking on 1 high level entity while another is on his side.
But seriously, heros help, it's what they do. It's like Galactus getting Surfer to help him in battles.
Like I said, we already seen Surfer fight the Other, and Scrier had to basically bring him back to life. He wasn't able to withstand attacks, and come back to defeat the Other. He was done.
And Galactus was most likely weak against TnA.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And it was sheer luck that Surfer had Scrier on his side when the Other showed up. Amirite? Although I'd like to think that Surfer taking on 2 high level entities by himself is a little worse than Surfer taking on 1 high level entity while another is on his side.But seriously, heros help, it's what they do. It's like Galactus getting Surfer to help him in battles.
Like I said, we already seen Surfer fight the Other, and Scrier had to basically bring him back to life. He wasn't able to withstand attacks, and come back to defeat the Other. He was done.
And Galactus was most likely weak against TnA.
Galactus being weakened is only speculation. We do know he was taken by surprise according to narration (?) but that's it (like Scrier stumbling upon Galactus as he was traveling through space, on his way to his next meal?). On panel, one of Annihilus' hoes, the one with precog abilities stated each of them (T and A) were equal in power to Galactus. Teneberous by himself roughed him up........badly. Aegis was just icing on the cake. Contrast this to how Scrier and the Other performed against Galactus.
Originally posted by zopzopAnd the Surfer got fingered violentally against the Other in like a second.
The Surfer did nothing at all vs T&A except maybe cause A to flinch a little. He was hopelessly outclassed and relied on his speed to avoid them. Yet the Scrier needed this feebs power to hold back the Other?Galactus being weakened is only speculation. We do know he was taken by surprise according to narration (?) but that's it (like Scrier stumbling upon Galactus as he was traveling through space, on his way to his next meal?). On panel, one of Annihilus' hoes, the one with precog abilities stated each of them (T and A) were equal in power to Galactus. Teneberous by himself roughed him up........badly. Aegis was just icing on the cake. Contrast this to how Scrier and the Other performed against Galactus.
Why not, that feebs power ended up beating both TnA.
Taken by surprise on a planet. A planet. Put 2 and 2 together.
Also add in the fact that Galactus pretty much stopped all of them by himself...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Importance/Annihilation-HeraldsofGalactus2-025.jpg
Assuming that he was weakened, he had ample time to feed, and he took Scrier and the Other by surprise, so, no.
Yes, I see the contrast, and I've given you an explanation.
Now contrast how Surfer did against both of them to how he did against the Other
