Well, even calling it Episode VII is weird. All the original storylines are wrapped, so it's not Episode VII, it's the first part of something entirely new, but I guess marketing has its play, along with the myth that GL had an unproduced post-ROTJ trilogy in his head (though if it used any of the ideas he originally had for films between ESB and ROTJ, that would be intriguing).
I'd be surprised if it pays any heed to the EU. We'll see.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well, even calling it Episode VII is weird. All the original storylines are wrapped, so it's not Episode VII, it's the first part of something entirely new, but I guess marketing has its play, along with the myth that GL had an unproduced post-ROTJ trilogy in his head (though if it used any of the ideas he originally had for films between ESB and ROTJ, that would be intriguing).I'd be surprised if it pays any heed to the EU. We'll see.
I'd be surprised to see EU mentions too, but I can hope.
At this point, I have to see the EU as a completely different entity. The Clone Wars show has already helped me make that distinction since it's been branded top-level canon and changed many things that the EU has already established.
I have very mixed feelings.
I would love to see Luke re-establish the Jedi Academy, meet Mara Jade (Luke's love) Han and Leia elope and have their three kids (the twins Jaina and Jacen, and then Anakin), Boba Fett escapes the Sarlaac Pit, and the clone of Emperor Palpatine almost seduce Luke to the Dark Side appear on film.
However, I trust Disney's integrity like a vampire giving me a blow job.
I need to research this more.
My jaw literally fell open when I saw this over at IGN
thought it was a April's fool joke... in Halloween
Not so sure what I think of this.
I like the idea of more live action movies, but I always felt like Ep VI was the end of the story. Regardless of any good post OT EU story, I always saw the EU as its own entity. Anakin brought balance to the force and that was it.
It will be weird not having Lucas as heavily involved in the SW future as he always was. I'm surprised he went ahead with the sale. He must be tired of all, but I never thought he'd let it go like this.
It can be great creatively, not having everything go through him, but it's still weird.
Besides the confirmation of a new movie, what will happen to rest of SW?
is the tv show still going to be make? what about future shows?
how is the canon going to be handle going forward?
will we get the original movies as first released? Are anymore changes going to be make?
and, though not SW:
what will happen to Indy?
about the comics: I read DH isn't sure of the comics, even though everything that's planned is still going forward. Most likely Marvel will regain the publishing rights.
I might eventually see the upside to all this, but right now I'm just numb with shock.
Lucas put everything he got out of the first Star Wars film to build an independent film-making empire up in Northern California, taking all the merchandising rights Fox (in what proved to be a stupendously short sighted move) gave away to him in his original contract. The difference between Star Wars and all the other film series owned and beaten into the ground by other studios, was the rights were owned by one man. And he made them the way he wanted to, with no studio bureaucracy breathing down on him. It made the films special events when they came.
....And now - the empire, the rights to Star Wars - it's all owned by Disney.
😐
The immediate up side for George Lucas - aside from pocketing a few more billion - is now all the haters who can't give up the littlest change can go complain to Disney from now on about Who Shot First etc.
If you've been wanting him gone from the saga, well congratulations. You're succeeded.
Happy now?
And does more movies put the EU canon started from Heir To The Empire in jeopardy? I really would prefer they leave the characters of Episodes I-VI alone.
oh no star wars will be ruined now.
oh wait george lucas took care of that already.
ok i think they should:
1-purify the OT and rid it of lucas' "improvements"
2-reboot the PT. thats right. REBOOT.
3-leave the sith dead for the sequels.
as ush pointed out: clone palpatine was a stupid idea. it was stupid even before the PT made him a contradiction. clone palpatine was nothing more than unimaginative garbage and the poster-character for why i always hated EU.
Regarding the plot, my hope is that they jump about 100 years or so into the future, ala Legacy. I don't want to see cameos of old as **** Luke and Han and the gang. I really don't want these people to get the EU treatment of all their fighting in the OT being for nothing as they have to get involved in shit in their old age anyway.
I want all the people in the OT to be dead, to have died peacefully knowing that they'd changed the Galaxy for the better, and I want the characters who are alive in the current setting to see those people as "legends".
Originally posted by roughrider
I might eventually see the upside to all this, but right now I'm just numb with shock.Lucas put everything he got out of the first Star Wars film to build an independent film-making empire up in Northern California, taking all the merchandising rights Fox (in what proved to be a stupendously short sighted move) gave away to him in his original contract. The difference between Star Wars and all the other film series owned and beaten into the ground by other studios, was the rights were owned by one man. And he made them the way he wanted to, with no studio bureaucracy breathing down on him. It made the films special events when they came.
....And now - the empire, the rights to Star Wars - it's all owned by Disney.
😐
That's what was so great about SW, but it's also what made him one of the most hated film makers in hollywood. Pretty sad they didn't appreciate what he achieved in that way, and just how much he's brought to cinema.
Originally posted by roughrider
The immediate up side for George Lucas - aside from pocketing a few more billion - is now all the haters who can't give up the littlest change can go complain to Disney from now on about Who Shot First etc.If you've been wanting him gone from the saga, well congratulations. You're succeeded.
Happy now?
I can see he got fed up of SW fans hate ranting at him. I personally loved all the SW Movies he created.
The upside for me is, we can now get SW sequel movies. There was no way Lucas was going to make more.
And if the new ones suck, then like you said no one can blame Lucas for it.
We can always differentiate between Lucas's movies and any other SW Movies.
Originally posted by roughrider
And does more movies put the EU canon started from Heir To The Empire in jeopardy? I really would prefer they leave the characters of Episodes I-VI alone.
It's safe to say all Post ROTJ Eu stuff will be thrown into the trash.
Originally posted by roughrider
If you've been wanting him gone from the saga, well congratulations. You're succeeded.
Happy now?
yes
as a battered widow might say "now you can never hurt me again"
since disney has no ego riding on 'improving' the OT, and a vested interest in doing the opposite...i think we might well soon get an unmolested OT blu ray within the year.
so yes, roughrider, i am THRILLED, actually
Hoping they opt to jump ahead in the future and not continue with Luke, Leia, Han etc. with a new cast.
Also hoping they jump far enough ahead that all characters from Ep1-6 are long dead and we don't get some old actor playing old Luke.
Read some rumours that they're thinking of doing Han and Leia's offspring as the focus. Just rumours though.
I certainly could see more movies happening, and Lucas did too, even if they weren't going to be made by him. I just thought he'd pass the baton to his successor and let them take care of it, and Lucasfilm continues as the independent it has long been. But this...this is earthshaking.
So...perhaps only something that has been shown on the big screen or the small screen can be considered canon in the future? All the EU literature and video games - off the side of the ship...?