Silver age Mangog vs Doomsday

Originally posted by the Darkone
You haven't even read the story, but you are claiming that Odin wasn't at his best, is what you are saying as where the story basically stated that Odin was at top form and all of his powers weren't doing nothing to Mangog if anything if was feeding him.

You are a troll, bottom line. Your nothing but a cancer and a pain the in butt, you talk more BS than a US Senator. Go read some comics if you can comprehended.

Did you read all of my post? How did Mangog harm Odin? Did he drain him? What?
Why did Thor fair better? Is it because Thor was physically superior to Odin at that time?

Give me the issue number and I will read it myself.

Originally posted by Horrificus
If you had read the books, instead of simply arguing, you would know that Odin has stated, over and over, the all of his powers were useless against Mangog.

Originally posted by h1a8

What does that have to do with Mangog harming DD?

I guess because it shows that Mangog's magic (as he is a magic being after all!) is greater than Odin's magic. You could argue that it just means Mangog has awesome defensive magic, but poor (relatively) offensive magic, but seeing as he's meant for destruction, that doesn't make much sense, just like DD was meant for destruction and so has the ability to dish out as much as he can take.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Odin has stated, over and over, the all of his powers were useless against Mangog.

Originally posted by h1a8
What does that have to do with Mangog harming DD?

It's just something that I like to go around saying to people.

Thor being physical superior too Odin means nothing, Odin has one shot Thor on numerous occasions and can amp his strength beyond Thor, still has nothing to do with Mangog since he feeds off of physical contact and magic directly, DD is stronger than Odin in base strength but not more powerful, if Odin had to fight any version of DD Odin would thrash him literally.

Mangog is a different beast all together, Mangog will physical hurt DD as he hurt Thor, DD is not smart enough to understand that, DD will be fueling Mangog; and Mangog tear him apart with his Sky Father level power.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor being physical superior too Odin means nothing, Odin has one shot Thor on numerous occasions and can amp his strength beyond Thor, still has nothing to do with Mangog since he feeds off of physical contact and magic directly, DD is stronger than Odin in base strength but not more powerful, if Odin had to fight any version of DD Odin would thrash him literally.

Mangog is a different beast all together, Mangog will physical hurt DD as he hurt Thor, DD is not smart enough to understand that, DD will be fueling Mangog; and Mangog tear him apart with his Sky Father level power.

Mangog has never been proven to exert the force necessary to harm DD sufficiently. Hurting classic Thor isn't enough. Now if Mangog killed Thor easily then you would have a point, but he didn't. Yes you have a point about DD feeding Mangog and this may be the trick to beat DD. But know that DD evolves resistance to anything that is getting the best of him. Thus it's possible that the only way to beat HP DD is to bfr him or ONE SHOT him. I highly doubt Mangog is one shotting HP DD.

Like I said, HP DD may or may not be able to get past Mangog's durability (depending on how much you put into him easily piercing Superman) but Mangog hasn't shown the ridiculous strength (like ability to kill Thor in one or a few blows) that's needed. But he does have the feeding off anger thing going for him. So prehaps he wins. Right now i'm undecided.

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin had later did things with his strength to prove himself but I'm only referring to that instance in time (where Thor was considered physically superior to his father).

Mangog has never been proven to exert the force necessary to harm DD sufficiently. Hurting classic Thor isn't enough. Now if Mangog killed Thor easily then you would have a point, but he didn't. Yes you have a point about DD feeding Mangog and this may be the trick to beat DD. But know that DD evolves resistance to anything that is getting the best of him. Thus it's possible that the only way to beat HP DD is to bfr him or ONE SHOT him. I highly doubt Mangog is one shotting HP DD.

Like I said, HP DD may or may not be able to get past Mangog's durability (depending on how much you put into him easily piercing Superman) but Mangog hasn't shown the ridiculous strength (like ability to kill Thor in one or a few blows) that's needed. But he does have the feeding off anger thing going for him. So prehaps he wins. Right now i'm undecided.

Plus he can fire magical energy. Which, as no one has used against DD before, means he's RELATIVELY weak against.

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin had later did things with his strength to prove himself but I'm only referring to that instance in time (where Thor was considered physically superior to his father).

Mangog has never been proven to exert the force necessary to harm DD sufficiently. Hurting classic Thor isn't enough. Now if Mangog killed Thor easily then you would have a point, but he didn't. Yes you have a point about DD feeding Mangog and this may be the trick to beat DD. But know that DD evolves resistance to anything that is getting the best of him. Thus it's possible that the only way to beat HP DD is to bfr him or ONE SHOT him. I highly doubt Mangog is one shotting HP DD.

Like I said, HP DD may or may not be able to get past Mangog's durability (depending on how much you put into him easily piercing Superman) but Mangog hasn't shown the ridiculous strength (like ability to kill Thor in one or a few blows) that's needed. But he does have the feeding off anger thing going for him. So prehaps he wins. Right now i'm undecided.

I'll help you out, Mangog wins 100000000000/10

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plus he can fire magical energy. Which, as no one has used against DD before, means he's RELATIVELY weak against.

The problem with DD is not his incredible durability, but his ability to not only heal instantly if you can even bypass it, and his ability to evolve greater resistance (if not complete immunity) to whatever is harming him.

The only chance Mangog has is to go become more powerful through feeding against DD

Originally posted by h1a8
There's lots of blasts DD never encountered that he was already resistant against (the OE anyone). There's no guarantees there.

The problem with DD is not his incredible durability, but his ability to not only heal instantly if you can even bypass it, and his ability to evolve greater resistance (if not complete immunity) to whatever is harming him.

The only chance Mangog has is to go become more powerful through feeding against DD

The Radiant killed him (or at least, knocked him out for a loooong while). He was amped by his planets' royal family energies. So you were asking previously, what Mangog could do to harm him.....

Originally posted by h1a8
There's lots of blasts DD never encountered that he was already resistant against (the OE anyone). There's no guarantees there.

The problem with DD is not his incredible durability, but his ability to not only heal instantly if you can even bypass it, and his ability to evolve greater resistance (if not complete immunity) to whatever is harming him.

The only chance Mangog has is to go become more powerful through feeding against DD

Or he gets turned into a rabbit.

Has he ever faced a complete transmutation before and reversed it?

Mangog of course

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Or he gets turned into a rabbit.

Has he ever faced a complete transmutation before and reversed it?

Why didn't he turn Thor into a rabbit?
The OE didn't transmute DD into vapor.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The Radiant killed him (or at least, knocked him out for a loooong while). He was amped by his planets' royal family energies. So you were asking previously, what Mangog could do to harm him.....

That was a weaker DD. This is the strongest version, one who can adapt on the fly.
The OE is greater than any blast by Mangog.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why didn't he turn Thor into a rabbit?
The OE didn't transmute DD into vapor.

That was a weaker DD. This is the strongest version, one who can adapt on the fly.
The OE is greater than any blast by Mangog.

Yes, but the magic is different, right? So whilst he's super super resistant to the OE, he will not be as resistant to the same degree to a magic blast.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why didn't he turn Thor into a rabbit?
The OE didn't transmute DD into vapor.

That was a weaker DD. This is the strongest version, one who can adapt on the fly.
The OE is greater than any blast by Mangog.

Well for starters, he reveled in beating the crap out Thor. Conversly, why did he transmute other asgardians during his ruse in the first place, maybe because he can and he intended to keep his facade longer.

As for the OE, Darkseid wasn't intent on transmuting him. Fact is, when he thought DD was dead, he turned his back onto him unlike how he dealt with Cyborg Superman. Easy to surmise he just wanted to get rid of DD the old fashion killing way.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Well for starters, he reveled in beating the crap out Thor. Conversly, why did he transmute other asgardians during his ruse in the first place, maybe because he can.

As for the OE, Darkseid wasn't intent on transmuting him. Fact is, when he thought DD was dead, he turned his back onto him unlike how he dealt with Cyborg Superman. Easy to surmise he just wanted to get rid of DD the old fashion killing way.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't recall him turning the other Asgardians into rabbits either. Darkseid was intent on transmuting him into vapor. You didn't know?

The other guys already posted a pic of him transmuting other asgardians into animals so i really don't follow.

Anyway, i don't recall Darkseid intended to turn H/P Doomsday into vapor but if I did miss that, resisting something he hasn't encountered isn't something Dd had so it's pretty safe to assume Darkseid didn't actually tried transmutating him.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't recall him turning the other Asgardians into rabbits either. Darkseid was intent on transmuting him into vapor. You didn't know?

You should not need to be educated about the character AFTER you make a claim about a character.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Dude, I know you are trying to save face, but you really need to go read all of the original books somehow. Because you keep arguing about things, simply because you haven't seen them on-panel.

You should not need to be educated about the character AFTER you make a claim about a character.

Odin was greatly weakened from moving Asgard when he confronted Mangog. He barely had time to rest and was falling over.

Out of all the confrontations Mangog and Thor had, Mangog never really injured Thor. Not only that, his offensive power seemed far below the likes of a Superman or even DD. He had the durability to resist Thor's hammer hits, which is impressive, and a weakened Odin sword attack. But that doesn't make him invincible. Also it is said over and over that he had the power of a billion billion warriors, which implies a limit. That means anyone who is more powerful than those can bypass his durability. I would say that Superman is more powerful than a billion billion warriors and thus is DD.

So now I'm back to HP DD winning this. Piercing Superman like he is liquid and having the ability to adapt on the fly is enough for me.

LOL!!!!!

You're the only person that doesn't realize that this is a spite thread against Doomsday.

Originally posted by Silent Master
LOL!!!!!

You're the only person that doesn't realize that this is a spite thread against Doomsday.