Thot vs Queen of the Damn Vamp

Akasha can fly as well, so Thor staying up in the air isn't really an advantage. Creating a hurricane takes time, time that Thor doesn't have considering these are speed blitzers. Has Thor ever created lightning quickly in the movies? From what I recall, he needed to lift his hammer, power it up, before lightning fell. Granted it only takes a second or two but if it takes him that long to generate lightning, then it's pretty useless against speedsters like these.

Again, I don't see any way for Thor to hit this vamps. His weather manipulation powers are great but slow. On the other hand, we have no quantifiable idea just how strong the vamps (especially Akasha) are or exactly how durable Thor is. They may or may not be able to hurt him... but I'll take that gamble over the sureness of Thor not being able to hit them.

I noticed that this forum is heavily biased for superheroes, and Thor is my favorite superhero... but I realize his weaknesses and against speedsters, there' not much movie Thor can do.

What feats do the vamps have to suggest they can even hurt someone on Thor's durability level?

Originally posted by Silent Master
What feats do the vamps have to suggest they can even hurt someone on Thor's durability level?

I'll rewatch the movie and get back to you on that. On the other hand, what feats do Thor have that suggest that he can hit someone near the vamps speed?

Again, Thor has several AOE attacks and can fly much faster than the vamps.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Thor has several AOE attacks and can fly much faster than the vamps.

And again, those AOE attacks are slow. Everytime they have been used it he took a few secs to prep it up, and has been against slow moving enemies. Show me proof that he's gone up against decently fast opponents. And there aren't "several" of them. He has the lightning, the hurricane, and the ground slam. What else?

Fly much faster? Maybe, but he can't levitate like they do.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Akasha can fly as well, so Thor staying up in the air isn't really an advantage. Creating a hurricane takes time, time that Thor doesn't have considering these are speed blitzers. Has Thor ever created lightning quickly in the movies? From what I recall, he needed to lift his hammer, power it up, before lightning fell. Granted it only takes a second or two but if it takes him that long to generate lightning, then it's pretty useless against speedsters like these.

Again, I don't see any way for Thor to hit this vamps. His weather manipulation powers are great but slow. On the other hand, we have no quantifiable idea just how strong the vamps (especially Akasha) are or exactly how durable Thor is. They may or may not be able to hurt him... but I'll take that gamble over the sureness of Thor not being able to hit them.

I noticed that this forum is heavily biased for superheroes, and Thor is my favorite superhero... but I realize his weaknesses and against speedsters, there' not much movie Thor can do.

They don't have any strength feats that I can recall.

Originally posted by Mindset
It's not really a bias, they just have better feats than most movie characters.

They don't have any strength feats that I can recall.

Ok I'll do this: I'll rewatch the movie and if I can't find any decent strength feats, I'll concede.

Originally posted by FrothByte
And again, those AOE attacks are slow. Everytime they have been used it he took a few secs to prep it up, and has been against slow moving enemies. Show me proof that he's gone up against decently fast opponents. And there aren't "several" of them. He has the lightning, the hurricane, and the ground slam. What else?

Fly much faster? Maybe, but he can't levitate like they do.

That's all he needs, the ground slam effected at least several hundred yards in every direction and the lighting took out an entire street of aliens and that's not even counting the large lighting strike he used to bottle-neck the portal. plus if he creates another tornado, the vamps won't be able to get to him, as they have no feats to support their flight power being powerful enough to let them overcome wind speed capable of sucking up cars.

Also, There is no maybe about flight speed, seeing as Thor caught up with a shield transport in Avengers and Mjolnir broke the sound barrier in Thor, BTW....Thor did levitate while in the tornado.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That's all he needs, the ground slam effected at least several hundred yards in every direction and the lighting took out an entire street of aliens and that's not even counting the large lighting strike he used to bottle-neck the portal. plus if he creates another tornado, the vamps won't be able to get to him, as they have no feats to support their flight power being powerful enough to let them overcome wind speed capable of sucking up cars.

Also, There is no maybe about flight speed, seeing as Thor caught up with a shield transport in Avengers and Mjolnir broke the sound barrier in Thor, BTW....Thor did levitate while in the tornado.

Ground slam won't work since the vamps will just levitate. The lightning took down a whole street of aliens that were STANDING STILL. He's gonna have hell of a time aiming and hitting blurring vamps.

The tornado is powerful though, and assuming he has enough time to build one, then the vamps can just stay out of range of the tornado, at which point it becomes a stalemate. Thor is not fast enough to generate the tornado quickly enough that the vamps are unwittingly sucked into it. He starts making that tornado, the vamps can easily just run back out of range. And if they're stupid enough to just stand there and allow Thor the time to make that whirlwind, then those vamps deserve to get destroyed for their stupidity.

There is however one bad point for the vamps though. From what I recall from both the movies and books, the vamps don't have good durability. They're durable enough to survive hits from each other but a stake through the heart still kills them I think... so if incase Thor does hit them, he shouldn't have any trouble splattering them.

To me, it's just a matter of if he can hit them.

If the vamps levitate to aviod the ground slam, that makes them sitting ducks for a lightning strike, lightning taking out an entire street is proof that he can fill an area with lightning, it would kind of be hard for them to dodge something if it covers the entire field.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If the vamps levitate to aviod the ground slam, that makes them sitting ducks for a lightning strike, lightning taking out an entire street is proof that he can fill an area with lightning, it would kind of be hard for them to dodge something if it covers the entire field.

It's not like they need to stay in one place when they levitate. They levitate and start flying around at again, blurring speeds. Thor will still have a problem hitting them.

And Thor never generated lightning that "covered the entire area/street". He generated lightning that split into 3 forks which killed three different targets.

Thor's reactions are fast enough to block energy attacks, do you have any proof that the vamps can fly or move faster than that?

Actually, forget this debate. I just finished re-watching Queen of the Damned (well skimmed through it actually), and the vamps have NO strength feats and very few speed blitz feats. They also didn't show good flight speed. I'm reminded of how bad that movie was. What a disgrace to the books.

Thor FTW!!!

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor's reactions are fast enough to block energy attacks, do you have any proof that the vamps can fly or move faster than that?

IWTV, they move faster than the [human] eye can register.

Do they have any measurable feats?