Hulk Vs Dr. Ock
Originally posted by Shabazz916
the harness wouldnt stop hulk from ripping out the arms because its connected to his body
Doesn't work like that, guys.
Unless it's been changed without my knowledge, only Doc Ock's ORIGINAL arms were grafted to his body. And the authorities found a safe, surgical way to remove THOSE arms from Ock relatively early in his career. If you look at a few of the older Spider-man stories from the 1970s, in fact, you'll actually see Ock outfitted as any other normal man.
Then as part of the story progression, usually after he's been confronted by Spider-man or ready to break from jail, the arms come, mentally controlled by Ock, and spring him or attack his enemies.
He actually keeps, or used to keep, extra sets of harnesses around for backup or to do his bidding by "remote" (telepathic control).
One of the most famous incidents of the above occurred when Otto went against Iron Man. Note in this attachment of their first round end fighting scene, Ock simply holds Iron Man with his own standard set of metal arms while a 2nd harness unit rips Iron Man's suit off of him.
Note, by the way, the parallel of Iron Man's suit being ripped off to what you're actually proposing Hulk would do. Tony himself is not truly hurt just by the mere fact of that suit being torn apart because he himself is not part of that suit. Ock, in the Hulk encounter you're theorizing, would be even less so.
Hulk Vs Dr. Ock
Originally posted by Shabazz916
I've heard people say Ock can beat Hulk. But how?
Hulk just has to toss him.
Or rip [those] tentacles off of Ock's [harness].
It's important to remember that characters don't exhibit the same behavior from decade to decade, and often don't even share the same physical properties with later incarnations.
In Hulk's case, it's significant that Hulk was NOT regularly given to using the thunderclap manuevers we seem to see in every other showing on our modern KMC boards. Today's World War Hulk, having that as his bread-and-butter? He'd give Ock a round of applause from the get go. And back Ock would go to jail.
But the Hulk of the 90s era or thereabouts wasn't in that practice.
As for physical properties, the Hulk of yesteryear was less strong than World War Hulk. And Ock's tentacles then were adamantium, the most durable metal known to exist.
And as I've pointed out earlier today in the Ock versus Lizard thread, anyone lacking a ranged attack would, by default, find it VERY tough going against the good Doctor.
But here, besides page 1768 of the Character Ownage thread on these boards, it's easier just to show you what happened:
I don't know about "holding back", but Hulk did NOT make use of his ranged "thunderclap" attack in this first encounter.
He was also in the air in that first encounter, so Hulk did not have the chance to pull a disoriented Ock toward him and into striking range before Ock could react.
Nothing would have changed if Vegas Hulk had been in the same position as he were in the first encounter.
Hulk versus Doctor Octopus. Scan 6 of 6.
(Note again that a full scan of the whole comic page appears on page 1768 of the character ownage thread.)
It's worth pointing out that Frank Castle does NOT believe Hulk when he says he held back against Ock the last time.
It's also, though, again worth noting that Hulk did not use any ranged attack against Ock in the first encounter. He was caught in the air, had nothing to apply his strength effectively against, and no means to stop the blows raining on him with impunity.
Ock explained as much during that encounter ...