Beta Ray Bill Vs Orion (HTH only)

Originally posted by ODG
I may have pulled that "heat revived Bill" security blanket myself once upon a time, but I dont think the so-called advantage was concrete or even meaningful. BRB was avoiding the magical lava just as much as Thor was. And I certainly dont remember the writer even slightly hinting that Odin even even planned the battle with such so-called advantage in mind.

In my opinion, Thor lost straight up to his equal or better in h2h.

I remember it was stated, that it favored BRB to give a fighting chance, BRB barely won himself, he just came too himself before Thor did, on neutral field Thor works him, it will still be the same as if he fights Orion, BRB will pull at least 4/10, all out I give BRB the edge.

Originally posted by ODG
I may have pulled that "heat revived Bill" security blanket myself once upon a time, but I dont think the so-called advantage was concrete or even meaningful. BRB was avoiding the magical lava just as much as Thor was. And I certainly dont remember the writer even slightly hinting that Odin even even planned the battle with such so-called advantage in mind.

In my opinion, Thor lost straight up to his equal or better in h2h.

Going back to the fight, Bill never really beat Thor since he clearly admitted to having an advantage. Just eyeballing the fight, Thor still seemed to have the upper hand for most of the fight. Remember the battle ended when both collided with and impact so hard it destroyed the surrounding countryside. The impact resulted in a double KO from which Bill recovered faster because of the heat.

BRB doesn't run away from his opponent, he runs TO his opponent

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The very next issue I remember he confesses to Thor that he was born in a place very similar (extreme heat) and that he could not have won the fight if Odin had chosen another setting.

Originally posted by ODG
If you have a scan of that, by all means post it. I remember no such thing.

This is from your respect thread. Bill said "the heat revives me" after their double KO.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsBetaRayBill05.jpg

We later learn that it really did help revive him from his admission to Thor that he was born in a place not so different and that he would not have won such a close fight if it took place other than where Odin sent them.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/Thor_v1_339_p07.jpg

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
This is from your respect thread. Bill said "the heat revives me" after their double KO.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsBetaRayBill05.jpg

We later learn that it really did help revive him from his admission to Thor that he was born in a place not so different and that he would not have won such a close fight if it took place other than where Odin sent them.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/Thor_v1_339_p07.jpg

Case closed, BRB admitted he would've lost to Thor if the fight took place anywhere else, so BRB actually defeating Thor in that contest was myth, if anything it was a draw. This fight fight favor Orion, since he does have healing factor and more skilled, Orion will win the majority but BRB will steal at least four!!

Regardless it was s close fight.

You match these two in unarmed combat it will always be a close fight. Like Manny vs Marquez close.

Oh and Marquez is totally phucking up Manny this December.

Bill was not yet amped/enchanted by Odin when he fought Thor, was he?

What if Bill goes Critical in the fight like he did in his war on Galactus?

Originally posted by Galan007
Bill was not yet amped/enchanted by Odin when he fought Thor, was he?

Originally posted by Galan007
Bill was not yet amped/enchanted by Odin when he fought Thor, was he?

No, after when Odin presented him Stormbreaker, still it was a good showing for BRB, I am taking what BRB said if it was anywhere he would have lost, it does take luck to win a close fight even if the environment favors you.

Originally posted by Newjak
What if Bill goes Critical in the fight like he did in his war on Galactus?

Originally posted by Galan007
Bill requires Skuttlebutt to decouple him. If he were decoupled, however, he'd trounce the phuck out of Orion.

It wouldn't be fair. In that form, would you put Bill around low to mid trans?

Most likely. He did [a LOT] better against the I'than armada than both Surfer and Stardust combined.

Originally posted by Galan007
Bill requires Skuttlebutt to decouple him. If he were decoupled, however, he'd trounce the phuck out of Orion.

Originally posted by Galan007
Most likely. He did [a LOT] better against the I'than armada than both Surfer and Stardust combined.

Are you talking about the scene where he saved Galactus life from the armada?If so, I agree.

Originally posted by Galan007
Bill was not yet amped/enchanted by Odin when he fought Thor, was he?

It was his bionically/biologically enhanced base self. Looked to me he was more on the defensive for most of the fight, but was able to hang with Thor nontheless. He's definitely legit class 100 even without the Stormbreaker upgrade.

Originally posted by carver9
Are you talking about the scene where he saved Galactus life from the armada?If so, I agree.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It was his bionically/biologically enhanced base self. Looked to me he was more on the defensive for most of the fight, but was able to hang with Thor nontheless. He's definitely legit class 100 even without the Stormbreaker upgrade.

Orion still wins btw... 😮‍💨