Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think you know what CIS is.
Taking off CIS means getting rid of character induced stupidity which means that the character will be using their abilities to the best which also implies that they will be using their full potential which is the same thing dmills is talking about.
Originally posted by carver9
Taking off CIS means getting rid of character induced stupidity which means that the character will be using their abilities to the best which also implies that they will be using their full potential which is the same thing dmills is talking about.
it means they'll fight with more power and less restraint, but they'll still fight according to their own tactics and personality.
they don't become forum avatars.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He's used grav nodes to stop a psychic entity. he's stopped a massively upgraded Darkhawk in his tracks with ease. I'm talking about a Darkhawk that had pseudo mystic/tehcnological upgrades. An armor upgrade that has greatly increased his strength, speed, power, and allowed for ftl travel through space. an armor upgrade that can tank cosmic control rod attacks like nothing.
Originally posted by dmills
I'm sick of the Xenith shit.*They traded shots, didn't really do much damage beyond the usual umph! and opph!
*He was checking his Ipad and reading his email while she was hitting him. That's embarrassing for her.
*He beat her without much trouble while his power was spread out amongst a myriad of Centurions. Hundreds, maybe thousands.
*At the end of the day if you compare the fights, she gave him about as much trouble as Dark Quasar did. We all know what happened to Dark Quasar once Rider retrieved all of his power. Him and the other Revengers got one shotted by a small burst of energy. Now that's enough about Mothaphuckin Xenith. Carry on gents.
Carver did you make the thread yet? I'm going to troll you buddy! Let me see if I can find you!
Originally posted by abhilegend
*Wasn't that the status quo of nova till he died? His power being shared.
*Not at all. If supergirl is getting smacked around by someone and she suddenly stops him by whistling and depowering him, its not embarrasing for him. This tactic means she was desperate enough to use an un-common tactic.
*Again not at all.
No. Nowhere near in those numbers.
Lolwut? Man you're making it sound like it was portrayed as some desperate last ditch ploy lol. It wasn't at all.
So what was happening when Nova was smacking her around until he was distracted? Or does that part not count?
"Not at all" what? Those are incontrovertible facts. Read Nova 36. Then T.I. ignition, then T.I. 6. That's exactly what happened.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's it? I'm not impressed.
LOL. Celey you walked right into that one.
@abhi,
Ive totally been meaning to get those xenith vs brb scans from you. I meant to pm you about that when you posted that scan of her tossing Stormbreaker. Pm them when you get a chance. Thanks brother.
Originally posted by dmills
No. Nowhere near in those numbers.Lolwut? Man you're making it sound like it was portrayed as some desperate last ditch ploy lol. It wasn't at all.
So what was happening when Nova was smacking her around until he was distracted? Or does that part not count?
"Not at all" what? Those are incontrovertible facts. Read Nova 36. Then T.I. ignition, then T.I. 6. That's exactly what happened.
That's exactly what happened. It was depicted as a desperate ploy, maybe not last ditch but desperate nonetheless. So, he was distracted, took a few blows and suddenly became less strong?
I disagree about dark quasar being anywhere xenith level.
I've read those bro.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So he's marginally more powerful? Meh.That's exactly what happened. It was depicted as a desperate ploy, maybe not last ditch but desperate nonetheless. So, he was distracted, took a few blows and suddenly became less strong?
I disagree about dark quasar being anywhere xenith level.
I've read those bro.
Lawlz. Not sure if serious.
I don't see how that read in any way as desperation. Him using his powers in a unique way to end a fight. By that token any hero that ever makes use of anything other than brute force for the win is weaker then the person they are fighting just because it was a tough battle when they decided to do it. Thor disrupting Blackbolt's antenna for the win, Superman using heat vision to disable Manchester Black's "x-gene" so to speak. Thor (hehehe) bowing before Firelord. Etc etc etc. It's called characterization. Rich grew into a savvy guy that often took the path of least resistance to get the job done. He even used that style against inferior opponents like Diamond head, Drax, Korg and Moonstone. If anything the fight with Xenith was ooc for him as it depicted him reverting to a flying brick like his younger years. Once he heard his bro was ok he went back to tactically cool Rich and used one of his abilities to quickly end it.
I know you understand that because you and I talk. It's a similar trait that Supes displayed that made me respect the character more when I began to read more of him and actually understand that he was far more then a boyscout flying brick. He's (underratedly so) one of the better tacticians in the game. He doesn't punch his way through every problem, even though if he wanted to he prolly could. Instead he very often comes up with ways to solve problems using intelligence and unique applications of his relatively limited power set. It's also a matter of restraint. The same applies to Richard. He could walk up and "Ego blast" most opponents. But he understands that what he carries requires him to show great restraint in how he uses it.
Each his own. WM said that Dark Quasar was every bit as powerful as the real deal.
Originally posted by dmills👆
Each his own. WM said that Dark Quasar was every bit as powerful as the real deal.
Pretty much. World Mind even when on to say "the imposter is a significant threat to your safety, but this new being exceeds him in power..." when referring to The Magus. This further added to the type of threat the alternate reality Avengers were. What did he do when he had the entirety of the Nova Force at his disposal? He tore through the Revengers like hot knife through buttaaa. A team that included alternate versions of Thor, Quasar,Ms. Marvel, and Iron Man. They were constantly referred to as Lord Marvel's elite.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...all of them would win if they are fighting out of character against Namor. In character, Namor could pull some wins against all of them.
Lol you know I'm just messing with ya man. Full capacity just means that they'd use all of their abilities in the most effective manner possible while maintaining their character. CIS off is a bit different.
On another note let me just put this Xenith thing to bed hopefully once and for all though. Just to drive the point home here's Moonstone slapping Rich all over the place. Looks like he's at her mercy right? He's desperate? She's more powerful right? No. It's one shot city once he decided to end it.
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Omg! Was he so desperate in the above situation that he had to resort to using a sneaky move? Eh, no. Here Rich is again, tooling Moonstone with a casual blast....
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1325971639.jpg
So you see it's in character for Richard to soak up damage from an inferior opponent while he tries to end it as efficiently as possible. I can post a lot more examples if you'd like. But you get the point. Nova has easily withstood blows from Thor, Gladiator, Namor and upper tier beings like, The Sphinx, Annihilus at the height of his power, and Supernova. Hell he even hopped right up after the beating that lord Marvell gave him. To think that a total of 2-3 hits from phucking Xenith had him going into desperation mode is well, silly.
And to make matters worse the chick was even grabbing him by the collar lol. The tactics he usually goes to in a cqb situation like that have the potential to end her.
Gently slaps people away with gravity
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Get off me
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Oh and just for the lulz. The "marginally more powerful" Nova at full unleashed raw power... And still attempting to hold back.
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Black Bolt/Nova Prime vs Supergirl/Powergirl
Originally posted by carver9
Two of dmills favorite characters vs the Super chicks.Who wins? No bfring and Pre reboot versions.
If Kara could somehow circumvent the sonics, Black Bolt would find himself in the same predicament as here, I think, especially given that many writers treated Supergirl, effectively, as physically stronger than her cousin, max potential or no.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14092514
I was reminded of that when going through my collection today, especially around the time of Justice League of America 55 or thereabouts (volume 2), a story arc that would eventually feature Kara taking on Doomsday by herself ... and winning! (Until interfered with by Cyborg Superman, at least ...)
Features some interesting artwork from Brett Booth.
Not sure what I think about it save for the following attached shot, which is absolutely great but doesn't seem in line with any of the rest of it.
It's so different that I'm wondering now if they had an unlisted guest artist draw the panel ...
