Handicap matches!!!

Originally posted by 8swords
Thunderclap

Actually, I would think someone who uses sonics as a weapon to the extent of Black Bolt should be at least somewhat shielded against them.

I agree that it would be a Superman win, however.
Substitute Ol' Blue for the guy in green and you already know exactly what it would look like ...

Originally posted by carver9
An ability will be taken from each character. No bfring for any of the matches.

Black Bolt (no voice) vs Superman (everything involving his speed is reduced to Wolverine level)

Thor (no hammer) vs Wonder Woman (no flight)

Magneto (no shields) vs Martian Manhunter (no inviso or morphing)

Orion (no harness) vs Captain Marvel (no flight)

Surfer (no board) vs Kyle (no constructs)

Go!!!!

No opinion on Orion versus Captain Marvel.

Magneto's fight gets one of the results DS listed.

Black Bolt gets submitted or knocked out by Superman, same as Hulk would have done, if BB is unable to sonic.

I have no idea what you think a Green Lantern that can't make constructs is going to do to ANYONE, much less Silver Surfer.

But Thor without his hammer versus Wonder Woman with no flight is a good match-up. In fact, that particular fight by a good team of writers would do better than 80% of the scenarios proposed on this forum.

This is especially true if (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) Thor is likewise unable to simulate flight, owing to the lack of Mjolnir (he was dependent on Mjolnir for flight in early adventures, certainly).

In that scenario, you'd have Thor versus a faster version of the Hulk, one that, if you're going with the DCnU version of the Wonder Woman character, can power-up at will to a level that exceeds that of many gods. (See Wonder Woman #12 for proof.)

Kirby would have had a field day!

(Wonder Woman for the win pre-reboot, by the way,
"god" mode Wondy for the win DCnU.)

Even though Kyle can't make constructs, he can still blast and create shields.

A shield is a construct.

Shields # constructs? 😬

@Pr beat me to it.

Originally posted by carver9
Even though Kyle can't make constructs, he can still blast and create shields.

Originally posted by -Pr-
A shield is a construct.

I never said he couldn't shield himself, he just can't create constructs as weapons.

So he can construct a shield? Or shield himself with a forcefield construct?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So he can construct a shield? Or shield himself with a forcefield construct?

😕 you know what I mean.

I think I do - just Kyle blasting away and forcefield shields or something.

Surfer still wins!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think I do - just Kyle blasting away and forcefield shields or something.

Surfer still wins!

He will have the flight and speed advantage against Surfer.

He's still at a disadvantage.

Go into the Microverse, then fist fights Kyle to death.

He isn't as maneuverable as he would be with his board. Kyle would be flying circles around him. Surfer has never shown he could combat while flying like that.

Can he not omniblast? Time travel? Absorb and redirect the Oan energy (as Kyle won't be able to create armour and power himself up)? Create black holes? Alas, you used Kyle, who despite his power is still nooby nooby, and DID rely on his imagination. He tried to get into a fist fight with Deathstroke, for goodness sakes...

I stand by my early assertion.

CURRENT Kyle, though, haven't seen many feats from him - but am guessing you're using pre boot Kyle?

Yeah, this is pre reboot versions.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said he couldn't shield himself, he just can't create constructs as weapons.

You said no constructs, period. 😬

Just try to be specific next time, please.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Actually, I would think someone who uses sonics as a weapon to the extent of Black Bolt should be at least somewhat shielded against them.

hmm, good point ,but what if supes thunderclaps in his ears, just like how hulk thunderclaped in gladiators ears, would said shield/immunity work?

Originally posted by 8swords
what if supes thunderclaps in his ears, just like how hulk thunderclaped in gladiators ears, would said shield/immunity work?

A thunderclap ... directly ... to the ears?

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No, but getting Black Bolt a new head might ... 😬