Henshaw, Nimrod, and Primary Adamantium Ultron merge into a single being...

Started by TheLordofMurder2 pagesPoll

How far does the Henshaw/Nimrod/Ultron being get?

Henshaw, Nimrod, and Primary Adamantium Ultron merge into a single being...

Henshaw, Nimrod, and Primary Adamantium Ultron merge into a single being while perserving the best traits of each character; Ultrons Invulnerability, Nimrods adaptive/reconstructive capabilities, Henshaws technopathy+Superman-like powers...all under the command of Henshaws personality.

This incredibly dangerous being then runs the following gauntlet with all battles lasting until one side is completely destroyed/killed and there is no BFR...

1) Current Mangog...
2) World War Hulk...
3) Classic Thanos with all his tech...
4) Bor...
5) King Thor...
6) Uatu...
7) Loki powered Asgardian Destroyer...
8) Zeus...
9) Odin...

How far does the Henshaw, Nimrod, and Primary Adamantium Ultron being get?

Stops at 1.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Stops at 1.

Based on?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Based on?
Mangog.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mangog.

Does current Mangog have any feats to suggest he could damage Primary Adamantium?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Does current Mangog have any feats to suggest he could damage Primary Adamantium?
I don't judge by feats. That's a poor man's debate imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't judge by feats. That's a poor man's debate imo.

Gotcha...so you have no actual argument.

Actually, even from reading a wiki description of him, it sounds like Mangog would be hard to get past. He's apparently powered by hatred, even the hatred of his enemies, and ... "has the strength of a billion billion beings" ...? Am I reading that right? Hulk in Secret Wars dented Ultron's shell, and such a Hulk as got crippled by a single laser blast and complained of ever-growing weakness and irrelevancy to Thor. World War Hulk would have a decent handle on that, but someone with a billion times one billion anything should be able to shape this proposed Triune Ultron into a big ball. Or a little ball. Depending on his or her mood ...

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Actually, even from reading a wiki description of him, it sounds like Mangog would be hard to get past. He's apparently powered by hatred, even the hatred of his enemies, and ... "has the strength of a billion billion beings" ...? Am I reading that right? Hulk in Secret Wars dented Ultron's shell, and such a Hulk as got crippled by a single laser blast and complained of ever-growing weakness and irrelevancy to Thor. World War Hulk would have a decent handle on that, but someone with a billion times one billion anything should be able to shape this proposed Triune Ultron into a big ball. Or a little ball. Depending on his or her mood ...

Keep in mind Nimrods portion of this beings power; this being would be able to reconstruct very rapidly from any damage it sustained and also reconstruct with adaptations in place against a 2nd assault of the same type...

"A billion billion" is just a tagline. Just like "invulnerable," "untouchable," etc. etc. Everyone can be beaten. Trust feats when possible, logic when you can't, but not writer hyperbole or a wiki.

List is out of order. Mangog should take it easily.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Gotcha...so you have no actual argument.
False. I go by peer by peer comparisons. Best indicator not random hyperbolic feats, danielson.

Originally posted by Digi
"A billion billion" is just a tagline. Just like "invulnerable," "untouchable," etc. etc. Everyone can be beaten. Trust feats when possible, logic when you can't, but not writer hyperbole or a wiki.

I'm not really looking so much at the tagline as much as the fact that Mangog was a serious enough threat for Odin to apparently ressurect an entire race of people to end his threat. And that it usually required BFR or some variation of Odin power to deal with Mangog in every instance after that, even though his power was diminished from what it was in his original incarnation.

There's also the following, which speaks volumes of his durability:

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" ... the Mangog returns in the pages of the Thunderstrike mini-series when he is accidentally summoned by a mystical generator used by megalomaniac Adam Mann. When Thor wonders at his return, asserting his previous destruction, the Mangog scornfully replies that hatred can be suppressed or rejected, but never destroyed. He is banished once again, cast into the fire of a distant star..."

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I mean, Thor's beaten him. Which isn't a knock - Thor's a beast - but we're not talking about something so great that he'd clearly wreck the OP's robot thing.

Remember, everyone comes back. Quoting Mangog's return doesn't really add much to his mystique, imo.

The caveat here is that I don't know if there's a current version that's displayed anything > classic Mangog. So there may be more recent facts I'm not aware of.

Originally posted by Digi
everyone comes back. Quoting Mangog's return doesn't really add much to his mystique, imo ...

That's only one problem.

Another, perhaps bigger one, is that the OP specified the following:

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all battles last until one side is completely destroyed ...

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If THIS is true, and Mangog consistently comes back from defeat, and his track record seems to show it, then Triune Ultron won't be able to satisfy the Original Poster's condition for advancement, and stays on Level 1 ... regardless of whether Mangog has anything for him in return.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
That's only one problem.

Another, perhaps bigger one, is that the OP specified the following:

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[b]all battles last until one side is completely destroyed ...


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If THIS is true, and Mangog consistently comes back from defeat, and his track record seems to show it, then Triune Ultron won't be able to satisfy the Original Poster's condition for advancement, and stays on Level 1 ... regardless of whether Mangog has anything for him in return. [/B]

Mangog may not be able to permanently destroyed, but he can be killed; killing him once would be enough for a forum battle win...

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. I go by peer by peer comparisons. Best indicator not random hyperbolic feats, danielson.

Garbage...

Without feats you have no solid ground in which to base your conclusions upon...

Based on your lack of anything containing substance in this thread, you have absolutely nothing to base a win to Current Mangog upon...

You cant even point to anything tangible to support him being able to even harm the Henshaw/Nimrod/Ultron hybrid...

So yeah...you have nothing.

mangog owns stops at 1 rearrange the order it would b a lot more fun

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Garbage...

Without feats you have no solid ground in which to base your conclusions upon...

Based on your lack of anything containing substance in this thread, you have absolutely nothing to base a win to Current Mangog upon...

You cant even point to anything [b]tangible to support him being able to even harm the Henshaw/Nimrod/Ultron hybrid...

So yeah...you have nothing. [/B]

Feats don't proof much if anything. Peer by peer comparisons do. Superman has feats that put Captain Marvel to shame but that doesn't mean he tools Marvel based on his feats. Feats are usually exclusive to one character meaning we can't argue someone else could or couldn't do so since they weren't in the same situation.

You always try to stack the deck in your characters favor and get your panties in a bunch when someone argues against you.

Stops at 1. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Feats don't proof much if anything. Peer by peer comparisons do. Superman has feats that put Captain Marvel to shame but that doesn't mean he tools Marvel based on his feats. Feats are usually exclusive to one character meaning we can't argue someone else could or couldn't do so since they weren't in the same situation.

You always try to stack the deck in your characters favor and get your panties in a bunch when someone argues against you.

Stops at 1. 🙂

This is a very true statement regarding fts.