Palpatine (movies only) vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess only)

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Originally posted by KingD19
It's not a no limits fallacy when the only things being shown to harm him are weapons of divine/godly origin. (Execution Sword, Master Sword, Light Arrows fired by Zelda, Triforce)

And what makes me think he'd survive Palpatine's attempt to behead him is how the Water Sage was unable to kill him with the Execution Sword.

And considering Ganon is usually regarded to be the same throughout the games, he has some pretty powerful magic movie Palpy has no defense against.

Every sword which was used against him hurt him. You saying a lightsaber won't is ignorant since even the master sword could be blocked or parried by random foes in the game. It's laughable. The water sage stood there and didn't press while Dorf countered. Palpatine is too quick and his reflexes are too good for Dorf to hit him with anything while his saber cuts him up every which way.

Ganon never countered, Quan. He was chained up while he was stabbed through the chest (you know, that place where people have hearts).

I thought this was the one Zelda game you'd actually played, too. Apparently I was wrong. Explains a lot, actually.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Ganon never countered, Quan. He was chained up while he was stabbed through the chest (you know, that place where people have hearts).

I thought this was the one Zelda game you'd actually played, too. Apparently I was wrong. Explains a lot, actually.

Uhm, he broke free and did indeed counter. They stood there they didn't press their attack. You don't even know what the word counter means. You're terrible.

It's not a counter if you were already impaled through the chest. They didn't press an attack because it wasn't an attack, it was supposed to be an execution, and he survived.

But you're being ignorant. It's been stated several times that the only weapon capable of defeating Ganon is the Master Sword. The Execution Blade was meant to kill him as it was a divine weapon wielded by Sages. In OoT, Master Sword + Purified Light Arrows fired by Princess Zelda. Everytime he's been beaten, it's by some divine weapon.

Originally posted by KingD19
It's not a counter if you were already impaled through the chest. They didn't press an attack because it wasn't an attack, it was supposed to be an execution, and he survived.

But you're being ignorant. It's been stated several times that the only weapon capable of defeating Ganon is the Master Sword. The Execution Blade was meant to kill him as it was a divine weapon wielded by Sages. In OoT, Master Sword + Purified Light Arrows fired by Princess Zelda. Everytime he's been beaten, it's by some divine weapon.

The execution only hurt him because he didn't have the ToP yet, Quan likes to ignore this fact, lol. Once he got the ToP the whole 'hole in the chest' thing became a trivial detail.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The execution only hurt him because he didn't have the ToP yet, Quan likes to ignore this fact, lol. Once he got the ToP the whole 'hole in the chest' thing became a trivial detail.

Of course he ignores it, because he wants Palpatine to win.

Originally posted by KingD19
It's not a counter if you were already impaled through the chest. They didn't press an attack because it wasn't an attack, it was supposed to be an execution, and he survived.

But you're being ignorant. It's been stated several times that the only weapon capable of defeating Ganon is the Master Sword. The Execution Blade was meant to kill him as it was a divine weapon wielded by Sages. In OoT, Master Sword + Purified Light Arrows fired by Princess Zelda. Everytime he's been beaten, it's by some divine weapon.

That's the only weapon in hyrule and zelda universe. That doesn't somehow apply to the star wards universe. You need to start being fair and actually thinking about a shared universe fight and the logic one universe doesn't trump the other. That's called bias.

They also didn't press the attack because they thought he'd die and stood there in shock as he resisted and pulled the sword out and countered. Their attack failed to kill him and he countered. Use your head.

I'm not biased, and I'm not unfair. If anyone is guilty of that, it's you. You clearly made this thread because you wanted Palpatine to win. You even tried to say Palpatine was a more competent ruler, which isn't really true because he only came to power because he tricked Jar Jar into giving him pretty much absolute power, and had the clone army built with a fail safe to make them turn on the Jedi.

What I know as fact is that it's been stated the only weapons to harm/kill Ganondorf are divine in nature. The only weapons shown to harm/kill him are divine in nature. So it stands to reason that without a weapon that's divine in nature, hurting him is implausible. Palpatine on the other hand has no such defense.

Originally posted by KingD19
I'm not biased, and I'm not unfair. If anyone is guilty of that, it's you. You clearly made this thread because you wanted Palpatine to win. You even tried to say Palpatine was a more competent ruler, which isn't really true because he only came to power because he tricked Jar Jar into giving him pretty much absolute power, and had the clone army built with a fail safe to make them turn on the Jedi.

What I know as fact is that it's been stated the only weapons to harm/kill Ganondorf are divine in nature. The only weapons shown to harm/kill him are divine in nature. So it stands to reason that without a weapon that's divine in nature, hurting him is implausible. Palpatine on the other hand has no such defense.

So the Silver Surfer can't kill him because his energy isn't described as divine ? This is some serious fanboy logic. The only weapon that can kill him in Hyrule are these weapons but they also don't have Death Stars and lightsabers. Based on your logic the Death Star couldn't kill him. But then again you don't even understand how ridiculous your logic is so I can't hold it against you.

Lightsabers would cut through the master sword imo which is no better or worse in the game against other swords either. It's just the right tool on Hyrule to kill someone backed by the triforce of power. Lightsaber lops off his head. Palpatine has greater reflexes and precog.