If Thanos hits the following with his Big G blast..

Originally posted by zopzop
Changing your opinion once new information is presented isn't flipflopping. The fact that Chaos King is/was an aspect of Oblivion and the fact that Abyss is NOT Set came out only recently.

You already flat out admitted you were wrong. Christ, have some dignity.

Originally posted by zopzop
Any other poster would have called for a Mod right now but I'll just continue letting you make a fool of yourself.

All this has shown, is that you are directly and incontrovertibly guilty of the very things you tried to peg on me. You followed me here, you insulted me out of the blue. Granted, I didn't even realize it at first (had I done so, I would have been far more snippier in my original retort) but stop projecting your pitiful angst onto me. You're just being an ugly little child.

Originally posted by zopzop
Go back and read my original post in this thread. No one is making more of this than it should be. I outright stated Galactus wasn't hurt by it as Thanos himself recognized this.

Guess a single Mjolnir swing > all of Thanos' blasts/attacks.

Originally posted by zopzop
Galactus was the one who INITIATED hostilities and was about to attack Thanos. WTH did he think was gonna happen?
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/Surtur85/Thanos1.jpg
"Titan, I should have eliminated you earlier. An error I shall now rectify"

Galactus was in no way cheapshotted.

That has nothing to do with him expecting an attack from Thanos.
I was speaking of cheatshot in the sense of not defending, not trying to attack.

So Galactus initiates a fight, and is surprised when *gasp* his target (whom he'd just announced he was going to take care of) hits the first blow?

^ He didn't even attack Thanos. He told him to get the phuck out lest Thanos be killed. Both Galactus and Thanos knew it would be suicidal for Thanos to stay, much less attack. If you were Galactus, would you think Thanos would actually attack you?

Startling how this goes over peoples' heads. Imagine you at 3 years old and your mom is standing over you and glaring at you telling you she's going to spank you if you don't go to your room. You slap her face out of the blue catching her off-guard. You're going to argue that your mom should have expected something like that and blocked your slap? That because she initiated hostilities, you slapping her was a "legit attack" as if you'd both been in an actual fight???

Its not just anyone though. Its Thanos. Someone who has threatened the universe several times....

^ We both know Thanos is nothing next to Galactus. Moreover, Galactus knew it. Moreover, Thanos knew it. Galactus did not know why Thanos was so intent on staying there and he didn't want to hear it. He was stubbornly oblivious to any reason why Thanos would throw away his life by risking his ire. If it hadn't been for Hunger about to devour that universe, Thanos would never have stayed.

That's what was in Galactus' mind. Had Thanos the IG or CC or THOTU, yeah, maybe he would be expecting a serious fight on his hands with a Thanos who is a "threat to the universe." At that point in time, normal Thanos was anything but.

Granted, as a Thor fan I should love this idea that as long as you're looking at someone who you jawed at and threatened, you are obviously bracing for any incoming attack. But that's really a narrow-minded argument built for trying to make something out of nothing, i.e., a "legit attack" out of an unconventional suckerpunch.

Originally posted by ODG
There was no new information when you flopflop'ed over it. Chaos War took place. You argued Demiurge was retconned. Nothing new happened that changed Gaea's retcon. Then you tried to argue Demiurge was still in-continuity. Oblivion and Abyss has nothing to do with Gaea's retcon in Chaos War. Stop trying to justify your flopflop'ing.

You already flat out admitted you were wrong.

That's why I admitted WhiteWitchKing could be right. Then the recent Secret Avengers issues confirmed it.

So all we have is ONE panel that is later contradicted by Demogorge showing up and resuming his God Eater role exactly as it was 30+ years ago when Gaea mated with Demiurge to produce Atum to expunge the corrupt Elder Gods.

Christ, have some dignity. So you followed me into this thread, started flaming me in a bait post without any sort of provocation... and I'm the stalker and degenerate flamer? Yeah, I'm sure a mod will bestow the moral high ground flag onto you.

All this has shown, is that you are directly and incontrovertibly guilty of the very things you tried to peg on me. You followed me here, you insulted me out of the blue. Granted, I didn't even realize it at first (had I done so, I would have been far more snippier in my original retort) but stop projecting your pitiful angst onto me. You're just being an ugly little child. We already went over your original bait post where you flamed me.

Y'know, the original reason I picked on it was because you stated that "Thanos didn't sucker punch him." And that's exactly what we're talking about now. You're trying to make the sucker punch into something it's not (a "legit attack" in your parlance). Somehow, because Galactus could never have not expected that attack. So by your logic, admit that Thor smacking Odin to his butt is "a legit attack" because, somehow, Odin could never have not been expecting to be attacked.

Guess a single Mjolnir swing > all of Thanos' blasts/attacks.

Originally posted by Damborgson

Originally posted by zopzop
Actually yes there was. The Appendix to the Marvel Universe never stated or connected Abyss to Set and they are extremely accurate with their info. They also never connected the Martian Crown to Set.

That's why I admitted WhiteWitchKing could be right. Then the recent Secret Avengers issues confirmed it.

So all we have is ONE panel that is later contradicted by Demogorge showing up and resuming his God Eater role exactly as it was 30+ years ago when Gaea mated with Demiurge to produce Atum to expunge the corrupt Elder Gods.

Originally posted by zopzop
The fact that I didn't even reply to you proves you are a liar. I was "speaking" Kurupt and I knew you wouldn't be able to help yourself and pull your usual shenanigans. The fact that you proved me right and you continue to do so speaks volumes.

So how is it exactly, that you didn't follow me into this thread and insulted me out of the blue? You're just being a little pissant trying every which way to blame your behavior on me. I ain't no helpless victim, but I'm not about to countenance you trying to lay this irrational sh1tfest on me that 1) you tried to bait out of me unprovoked, 2) prolonged over several pages, and 3) are trying to blame on me as if I started it.

You stalked me here. You flamed me here. You baited me here. What's more: I didn't even notice it at first. So much for your stalker theory. This is just your sh1tty personality shining through. Unsightly it is, my fault it is not.

Originally posted by zopzop
And the fact remains, with the scan provided, that Thanos did not sucker punch Galactus.

But, of course, keep avoiding how your narrow-minded logic dictates that Thor never could have suckershotted Odin when he laid him flat on his ass in Fear Itself #1. Guess since Odin must have expected it unfailingly, he was bracing for attack and was simply overpowered by a single Mjolnir shot... that apparently surpasses the force of all of Thanos' blasts/attacks who failed to budge him in Blood and Thunder.

Smart. Really smart. I'm sure this is exactly the kind of result you wanted with your arguments. Now you know the reason why I threw your original comment back in your face. Not because you flamed me without provocation, but because of how stupid that "not a cheapshot, was a legit attack" comment was.

Originally posted by ODG
What in the hell are you blabbering about? The hell does a handbook have anything to do with Chaos War? Will you shut up about it already? You already argued against Demogorge's missing origin when you flopflop'ed over it originally. You keep acting like this is something you haven't flopflop'ed over already. Stop being such a selective amnesiac. You're not rewriting history over that terrible episode of incompetent hypocrisy. You already admitted you were wrong. Drop it.

The only "flipflop" was new information coming into play that caused me to doubt the retcon (the Marvel Appendix info) and then finally reject it (Thor Annual 1 [2012] and Secret Avengers 31-33).

The only "evidence" of a retcon is ONE PANEL's worth of dialogue from a member of the Greek pantheon (which AMAZINGLY matches up with the Greek version of the Creation Event. Something tells me this wouldn't be the case if it was Odin telling the story). This "evidence" is later contradicted by Demogorge showing up after Chaos War took place. Demogorge is Gaea's son with the Demiurge. This has NEVER been retconed anywhere.

What the hell? You already admitted you were referring to me when you posted your original post about trolls and stalkers.

So how is it exactly, that you didn't follow me into this thread and insulted me out of the blue? You're just being a little pissant trying every which way to blame your behavior on me. I ain't no helpless victim, but I'm not about to countenance you trying to lay this irrational sh1tfest on me that 1) you tried to bait out of me unprovoked, 2) prolonged over several pages, and 3) are trying to blame on me as if I started it.

You stalked me here. You flamed me here. You baited me here. What's more: I didn't even notice it at first. So much for your stalker theory. This is just your sh1tty personality shining through. Unsightly it is, my fault it is not.

I bet my life, the next thread I post on, you'll start this up all over again. You've already proven me right once.

With the scan provided, it's obviously clear that Galactus was threatening Thanos with death. That Thanos had the temerity to attack him clearly did not enter Galactus' mind (as he kept ignoring Thanos' warnings of universal danger).

But, of course, keep avoiding how your narrow-minded logic dictates that Thor never could have suckershotted Odin when he laid him flat on his ass in Fear Itself #1. Guess since Odin must have expected it unfailingly, he was bracing for attack and was simply overpowered by a single Mjolnir shot... that apparently surpasses the force of all of Thanos' blasts/attacks who failed to budge him in Blood and Thunder.

Smart. Really smart. I'm sure this is exactly the kind of result you wanted with your arguments. Now you know the reason why I threw your original comment back in your face. Not because you flamed me without provocation, but because of how stupid that "not a cheapshot, was a legit attack" comment was.

Thanos only pushed back 18 tons of dead mass miles back, nothing more. Impressive but not anything that can ko a high herald being.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos only pushed back 18 tons of dead mass miles back, nothing more. Impressive but not anything that can ko a high herald being.

1. Dies
2. Dies
3. KO'd
4. Dies
5-9. Badly stunned but still conscious
10. Hurt but quickly recovers.

1. Spiderman - nothing. Spidey-sense kicks off and he dodges it.
2. Beast - dead
3. Wolverine - stunned then regenerates and stabs Thanos
4. Ronan - KO'd
5. Glads - blasted into orbit, hurt but basically OK.
6. Thor - these days? Probably KO'd.
7. Superman - roughly the same as Glads
8. Surfer - bounces away, stunned and hurt then manages to get back up
9. Prime - might get blasted back a little if he's not ready for it. Then says something like "Ha ha, Thanos-blasts tickle! Now I'm going to kill you --- I'm going to kill you dead!"
10. Seid - maybe gets blasted back.

All that blast really did was knock the big G back and bounce him along in low gravity. Galactus wrecked Thanos, and Thanos admitted he was "lilliputian" in comparison to him. A good feat and a moment of fun but I wouldn't really compare it to the god blast which back in the day was quite a serious feat.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Galactus is far more durable than any high herald so that blast would far more damage to a herald so your science crap fails hard

No it wouldn't, not if the herald braced. It didn't even do any damage to Galactus, only his uniform. But I agree it would do damage to a high herald but no where near ko them.

Originally posted by h1a8
No it wouldn't, not if the herald braced. It didn't even do any damage to Galactus, only his uniform. But I agree it would do damage to a high herald but no where near ko them.

Lol of course they get kod, a far weaker Thanos killed Adam Warlock with a weaker single blast and AW had the soul gem and that very same weaker Thanos hurt Thor with a weaker blast.

Originally posted by basilisk
1. Spiderman - nothing. Spidey-sense kicks off and he dodges it.

The blast knocks all their hats off their head.

Originally posted by Nihilist
stop talking rubbish Galactus durability is far beyond any high herald you can name.

Lol of course they get kod, a far weaker Thanos killed Adam Warlock with a weaker single blast and AW had the soul gem and that very same weaker Thanos hurt Thor with a weaker blast.

Galactus wasn't damaged though. His uniform was. His uniform has been damaged multiple times by heralds though.

I never said Thanos wouldn't hurt a herald with that blast. How do you know the blast against Thor was weaker?

You mean Thanos koed Warlock, not killed him. You should be warned for purposely lying. Characters have variable showings of durability from time to time. Feats against characters must be taken with a grain of salt and compared to other instances. Otherwise everytime someone survives a Glads punch meant they survived a planet destroying punch. Or Thanos wouldn't have failed to ko or kill other heralds.

Originally posted by Estacado
The blast knocks all their hats off their head.