Originally posted by MindshipYou just answered your own question.
Strength-wise, yes. But then, shouldn't durability have also been comparable (it had to have been, to resist Supe's strength)? A much bigger blast should've been required to take it out -- heck, it didn't take out Superman.
It had strength to overpower Superman [who wasn't at full strength - and the scene with the sun made it blatantly clear, but it's still safe to say that he was planetary-pushing considering he did just that earlier]. It didn't have the durability to survive something that Superman wasn't even bothered about.
Moreso: the issue said that the creature's DNA was corrupted and decaying - that the thing wasn't even alive. This weak it's hammered home again on how it was part dead when it confronted Superman:
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/random%20scans/Supergirl-Zone-002.jpg
Quite everything shows that the [kryptonian] creature had disproportional strength and durability - both within what happened, and what was said.
Why is this so hard to accept?
Originally posted by MindshipDespite all else that's been said --
I feel like I have to disagree here. Supes first stated he couldn't believe how he wasn't strong enough to break the tripedal curosia--eh, monster's grip (say wut? are the writers telling us this thing could've benched Earth for 10 days?)
It's a matter of strength required for the task.
Example;
Anacondas and Pythons only squeezes with 35-40 pounds of force[which is enough pressure to shatter most bones]
The average man can benchpress 150 and still would be dead if wrapped up by one and didn't have help, or know to bite its tail or knock it to get it off.
Originally posted by JuntaiAssuming for the moment your figures are accurate, that would be a matter of leverage.
Despite all else that's been said --It's a matter of strength required for the task.
Example;
Anacondas and Pythons only squeezes with 35-40 pounds of force[which is enough pressure to shatter most bones]
The average man can benchpress 150 and still would be dead if wrapped up by one and didn't have help, or know to bite its tail or knock it to get it off.
That aside, I simply see power inconsistency here, hardly the first time with Superman or any other uberpowered character.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaIs that pic from the next issue? Damn, gotta make a trip to the comic store.
You just answered your own question.It had strength to overpower Superman [who wasn't at full strength - and the scene with the sun made it blatantly clear, but it's still safe to say that he was planetary-pushing considering he did just that earlier]. It didn't have the durability to survive something that Superman wasn't even bothered about.
Moreso: the issue said that the creature's DNA was corrupted and decaying - that the thing wasn't even alive. This weak it's hammered home again on how it was part dead when it confronted Superman:
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/random%20scans/Supergirl-Zone-002.jpg
Quite everything shows that the [kryptonian] creature had disproportional strength and durability - both within what happened, and what was said.
Why is this so hard to accept?
I'm not questioning Supe's strength or the creature's, just their comparable durability. Imo, it just doesn't add up. Something structurally strong enough (whatever its condition) to resist an earthbencher's attempt to break free is taken out by a "minor" explosion...?!
But I think I did answer my own question earlier: this is just "comics as usual"
Originally posted by JuntaiThe creature coiled Superman with the very tip of its tail, not the bulk of its body like a python. Still, your point is not a bad way around this.
Wasn't Superman coiled up similarly and you believe that's the strength discrepancy here?
I just don't wanna be disappointed. I think a better tactic would've been, eg, Superman flying straight up with the creature holding on, then diving straight down into the Earth at superspeed (maybe an uninhabited island somewhere), this resulting in "the biggest explosion since the Tsar bomb" which would've weakened the creature enough for Superman to finish it off with his hotter-than-the-sun HV.
Basically, you're showing me creatures with off-the-chart strength; I wanna see off-the-chart durability, too. For me, this oil blast didn't cut it (what it does highlight is Superman's famous creative use of his powers).
Originally posted by Mindship
Is that pic from the next issue? Damn, gotta make a trip to the comic store.I'm not questioning Supe's strength or the creature's, just their comparable durability. Imo, it just doesn't add up. Something structurally strong enough (whatever its condition) to resist an earthbencher's attempt to break free is taken out by a "minor" explosion...?!
But I think I did answer my own question earlier: this is just "comics as usual"
It's a zombie kryptonian creature whose DNA was corrupted and decaying - a clear abnormality. I won't give that much thought on why its strength/durability was shown as disproportional, just accept that it was [and the issue itself basically states this out].
[the scan is from this week's Supergirl issue, btw. Superman's will be out next week]
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Originally posted by Digi
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The forum can't repel posts of this magnitude!
Originally posted by PhilosophíaIt says that in the scan you posted? The closest I see to a statement about the creature is when Superman calls it an anamoly. Nonetheless, if the comic mentions the disproportionate durability-to-strength (just show me where), I have to accept that. Like you said, at least they're trying.
But thing is, he was, and the strength/durability ratio was pretty clearly emphasised as being disproportional.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaShoot. I have to buy both series to keep up with what's happening?
[the scan is from this week's Supergirl issue, btw. Superman's will be out next week]
Originally posted by DigiPeople are responding to my (sincere if nitpicky) posts. Go away.
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Originally posted by MindshipThe comic both shows it [its strength overpowers Superman's while it gets taken out by something Superman wasn't even damaged by] and flat-out adresses the fact that its not even alive, with a decaying DNA and weird body functionality [Superman knocks out its head, but it continues functioning]. We might aswell make hypothesis that some parts of it were less durable than others [thus the explosion knocked it out, but didn't damage the planetary-overpowering part] or whatever, but nothing really changes.
It says that in the scan you posted? The closest I see to a statement about the creature is when Superman calls it an anamoly. Nonetheless, if the comic mentions the disproportionate durability-to-strength (just show me where), I have to accept that. Like you said, at least they're trying.
Originally posted by MindshipThey've said you're good to go even if you buy just the Superman issues, but you know...
Shoot. I have to buy both series to keep up with what's happening?
Originally posted by -Pr-a real warning or one of those "placating x (in this case, abhi)" ones?
Warned. WTF dude.
i mean, if i have to continuously see him post that i hate superman as if it's some sort of relevant topic, well then he will remember what he posted of a true human being in the real world. let's get our priorities in order
Originally posted by Digi
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Wasn't a thread JUST LIKE THIS, closed?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t572436.html
Why has this one been allowed to keep going?
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
👆Wasn't a thread JUST LIKE THIS, closed?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t572436.html
Why has this one been allowed to keep going?
I imagine because there is actual discussion and feats being discussed. Plus most of the other threads regarding the planet bench press comic was closed due to the very comic book still not out yet.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
a real warning or one of those "placating x (in this case, abhi)" ones?i mean, if i have to continuously see him post that i hate superman as if it's some sort of relevant topic, well then he will remember what he posted of a true human being in the real world. let's get our priorities in order
Firstly, I told Abhi to stop before you made your comment.
Second, you're seriously going to equate him accusing you of hating Superman with what he said? You're better than that. 😬
So yeah, it's a real warning.
