Voldemort and Deatheaters (DH 2) vs. Volturi (BD2)

Originally posted by KingD19
His reflexes are good, but they aren't superhuman. Vamps move faster than humans can even keep up with, like Bella. Some vamps even move too fast for other vamps to keep up with. Look at Felix fighting Edward. There's no way any wizard would be able to keep up with that.

And since most spells are visible, flashy, and require extravagant flicks of the wrist and spoken incantations, it's easy to know when they're about to use one, and easy to dodge. And to Vamps, wizards look like they're moving in slow motion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you don't think Voldemort's reflexes are superhuman you haven't seen the Harry Potter films. The guy was also without peer save Dumbledore in terms of reflexes, magical skill. They could fly and tag them from up high and hit them with Crucio while others use Fiendfyre on the lot of them.

There's a difference between fast reflexes and true super speed though. Like, Jedi have fast reflexes but they never move at blurring speeds.

Same with Voldemort. He may have as fast reflexes as you say, but I don't think he's ever fought anyone who are as fast as the vamps.

Jedi do move at blurring speeds, *******.

Originally posted by FrothByte
There's a difference between fast reflexes and true super speed though. Like, Jedi have fast reflexes but they never move at blurring speeds.

Same with Voldemort. He may have as fast reflexes as you say, but I don't think he's ever fought anyone who are as fast as the vamps.

I can't remember the story but there was a book where Mace Windu was trapped on a planet with creatures that were resistant to the force. They were faster and stronger then the Jedi as well. He channeled the force/his emotions giving him a huge burst of speed and strength creating this crazy @$$ attack. That is a very vague description as I haven't read this story for years but some other star wars guy might be able to interpret it better.

Originally posted by FrothByte
There's a difference between fast reflexes and true super speed though. Like, Jedi have fast reflexes but they never move at blurring speeds.

Same with Voldemort. He may have as fast reflexes as you say, but I don't think he's ever fought anyone who are as fast as the vamps.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The wolves didn't have true super speed yet they had no problems tagging and overwhelming vampires. Wizards win.

Yes they did. It's mentioned I believe in the 2nd movie. Jacob states that the werewolves are specifically built to be fast enough and strong enough to take on the vamps.

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You're saying Voldemort is fast enough to react to those type of speeds when they're nothing but barely visible blurs?

And I doubt he could shrug off Jane's pain attack as people say. It's completely mental and not at all physical, and as a mental illusion, it tricks your brain into thinking it's real. It's like how waterboarding tricks you into thinking you're drowning. And it's said that to a human(much less durable physically and mentally than a vampire), the illusion could overload the brain and cause death. It's also said the experience is similar to the pain felt when being turned into a vampire, which involves venom burning it's way through your veins.

A description of the sensation - And suddenly I was on fire. It was like I'd gone back in time to the worst night of my life. Fire was in every vein of my body, covering every inch of my skin, gnawing through the marrow of every bone. It felt like I was buried in the middle of my coven's funeral bonfire, with the flames on every side. There wasn't a single cell in my body that wasn't blazing with the worst agony imaginable. I could barely hear myself scream over the pain in my ears.

Originally posted by KingD19
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You're saying Voldemort is fast enough to react to those type of speeds when they're nothing but barely visible blurs?

And I doubt he could shrug off Jane's pain attack as people say. It's completely mental and not at all physical, and as a mental illusion, it tricks your brain into thinking it's real. It's like how waterboarding tricks you into thinking you're drowning. And it's said that to a human(much less durable physically and mentally than a vampire), the illusion could overload the brain and cause death. It's also said the experience is similar to the pain felt when being turned into a vampire, which involves venom burning it's way through your veins.

A description of the sensation - And suddenly I was on fire. It was like I'd gone back in time to the worst night of my life. Fire was in every vein of my body, covering every inch of my skin, gnawing through the marrow of every bone. It felt like I was buried in the middle of my coven's funeral bonfire, with the flames on every side. There wasn't a single cell in my body that wasn't blazing with the worst agony imaginable. I could barely hear myself scream over the pain in my ears.

Jane will die and die quickly. Any mage could replicate her attack with one crucio. It's a big deal in that weaker verse not Potterverse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, why not as they mainly blitz without even death attacks. Most of the time they just stand around and like I said the wolves were keeping up with them as well.

Jane will die and die quickly. Any mage could replicate her attack with one crucio. It's a big deal in that weaker verse not Potterverse.

Show me one shred of evidence that Voldy can react to those speeds. Just one. A vid, something.

And as Froth stated, Jacob confirmed that the wolf shifters were almost specifically designed as a counter to vampires. Strong enough to hurt/kill them, fast enough to catch them. The only vamp fast enough to outrun the shifters I believe is Edward, and the redhead from the first movie whose power is survival.

Hell, in the newest movie, Santiago(Volturi Guard pretty much on par with Felix) ran down Jacob and Renesemee with ease. A half breed and a shifter, yet Jacob was able to kill him.

And watch any of the big battles, it's nothing but the vampires going at each other at super speeds. Wizards can do whatever they want, but they'll never be able to hit a vamp with a spell, and by the time they're done casting one, they're dead.

I actually like Harry Potter much more than Twilight, as I don't like Twilight at all. But be logical about this. The Twi-vamps move much faster than anything Harry Potterverse has ever been experienced to, and one hit is pretty much a kill.

As for Jane, that's what her guards are for. They keep her safe while she concentrates, and if her concentration is broken, she has all the physical attributes of a vamp, so she's just as dangerous.

Originally posted by KingD19
Show me one shred of evidence that Voldy can react to those speeds. Just one. A vid, something.

And as Froth stated, Jacob confirmed that the wolf shifters were almost specifically designed as a counter to vampires. Strong enough to hurt/kill them, fast enough to catch them. The only vamp fast enough to outrun the shifters I believe is Edward, and the redhead from the first movie whose power is survival.

Hell, in the newest movie, Santiago(Volturi Guard pretty much on par with Felix) ran down Jacob and Renesemee with ease. A half breed and a shifter, yet Jacob was able to kill him.

And watch any of the big battles, it's nothing but the vampires going at each other at super speeds. Wizards can do whatever they want, but they'll never be able to hit a vamp with a spell, and by the time they're done casting one, they're dead.

I actually like Harry Potter much more than Twilight, as I don't like Twilight at all. But be logical about this. The Twi-vamps move much faster than anything Harry Potterverse has ever been experienced to, and one hit is pretty much a kill.

As for Jane, that's what her guards are for. They keep her safe while she concentrates, and if her concentration is broken, she has all the physical attributes of a vamp, so she's just as dangerous.

Jane isn't used to people flying over her head with ranged attacks either. One crucio and she's on the ground in the grip of karma. Think about it you're being illogical for the Twis.

Originally posted by FrothByte
There's a difference between fast reflexes and true super speed though. Like, Jedi have fast reflexes but they never move at blurring speeds.

Same with Voldemort. He may have as fast reflexes as you say, but I don't think he's ever fought anyone who are as fast as the vamps.

Dammit...Volturi wins (NOOOOOO).

The vampires speedblitz and shred through the death eaters with collateral damage. As for Fiendfyre, the vampires will close the gap in a second or two and so using Fiendfyre at close range would be a stupid idea due to it incinerating other death eaters. As for Avada Kedavra, it it said that those twipires don't have beating hearts as the venom stops it so AK is ruled out. Friendly fire from wizards have to be taken into account since on of them could fire a curse at the vamp only to have it dodge the curse and the curse hits the wizard originally standing behind the vamp.

Volturi wins....unfortunately.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Apparition>>>>>>Vamp speed.

Reminds me of the time when people said Goku was faster than Superman because he could use Instant Transmission :lmao

Anyways, shouldn't the Twatvamps be able to speedblitz and tear them limb from limb physically. Harry Potter wizards are hardly superhuman

Though both suck so they can both lose faic

Voldemort clearly wins despite the twilight fanboys best efforts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort clearly wins despite the twilight fanboys best efforts.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes they did. It's mentioned I believe in the 2nd movie. Jacob states that the werewolves are specifically built to be fast enough and strong enough to take on the vamps.

Originally posted by King Ghidorah
Alright, care to elaborate why? (Try to map out a possible scenario with CIS involved). Remember not all Death Eaters are as competent as Bellatrix or Voldemort.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They tag the Volturi and make use of their clear flight advantage.

Good point. However vampires have been known to jump high (their limit is unknown...) and they are very fast, becoming blurs or invisible to the human eye depending on the speed of the vampire as they have different speeds but all the same superhuman. Could the time it takes for them to say a curse match up to the speed of twipires?

If these Death Eaters can shoot spells in smoke/flying form (can't remember if they can) then yes they stomp.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort and his allies who attacked Hogwarts forcefield vs. the Volturi who fought against the Cullen and their wolves. No Cullen or their allies just bad guys versus bad guys. Who wins ?

Should be both sides (Cullens and Volturi) against Voldy team. Even then the Twivamps are outnumbered.

Originally posted by RJ 2.0
One sided much? You that desperate for a Voldy win?

Should be both sides (Cullens and Volturi) against Voldy team. Even then the Twivamps are outnumbered.