Link and Pit vs. Kratos and Nariko

Started by AuraAngel2 pages

Scream is a testament to the idea that you can try and force feats out of anything.

You seem to be having trouble grasping terms here. Fi is the Master Sword. She doesn't 'make it more powerful' anymore than you make yourself more powerful, your questions don't make sense.

Does she add anything in terms of combat? She's a godamn sword, man, she wasn't created for knitting. She adds quite a lot to combat, she's the most powerful character in every game she appears in, in these games Link couldn't possibly succeed without her.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Scream is a testament to the idea that you can try and force feats out of anything.

I do enjoy forcing feats out of actual feats, yes. Lemme know when you have some counterpoint to Fi being peer to the assembled Triforce in power.

So link hast the master sword... Yay?
What exactly do you think fi does. Explain.

Yes, Link has the Master Sword. Your yay is justified, for this is good news.

You see, NATE, Fi doesn't like mean guys. And Kratos is kind of a mean guy. She has this pointy end conveniently handy too, in case of mean guys.

In short, Kratos is a jackass, and Fi's a planetary level magic weapon who hates jackasses. 😐 What do you think she does? haermm

Is this a serious question? Are you going to propose Kratos can beat Pit and Link or something? The thread seems to have been decided, man, I'm here for discussion because I'm bored and fighting sleep. 😐

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Fi, since the Goddesses left, is the most powerful character present in Zelda canon, mah boi. Planetary scale swords ftw.

And you underestimate Pit, who honestly takes Kratos on his own, he's fought Palutena before, and is massively hypersonic with apparently FTL reaction speed (this I can't source, but it's from the OBDwiki, so meh.) and yeah. Having Link here is just overkill, lol.

When has the master sword/fi done anything planetary.
It repels evil magic and can send those with demises hate to the sacred realm for a time out. Other than that it's just a sharp sword. And SS links fatigue-o-meter will make any of those functions almost impossible to use after a solid hit.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
When has the master sword/fi done anything planetary.
It repels evil magic and can send those with demises hate to the sacred realm for a time out. Other than that it's just a sharp sword. And SS links fatigue-o-meter will make any of those functions almost impossible to use after a solid hit.

Everytime she's shut down Ganon.

In aLttP Fi is directly stated to be a failsafe for the misuse of the completed triforce, an artifact of at least planetary power. Link, with the Master Sword, goes on to defeat Ganon with said completed triforce. SS mirrors this theme by having each of the goddesses flames temper the sword, just as each of the goddesses have a piece of the triforce they represent.

WW confirms that the gods power the master sword, and even in its' weakened state it maintains a permanent time stop on at least an entire country, but we can see that it goes to the horizon, and given that the entire world is flooded, it's likely the entire world beneath the ocean is frozen.

In this same game, Ganondorf, also weakened, and with only a single piece of the triforce, less than Fi's power, manages a planetary feat of his own, he prevents the shift from day to night, permanently. This was done with the bulk of his power sealed.

in TP Zant overlaps two dimensions across an entire country with a fraction of Ganon's power, which again is just one piece of the triforce.

In short, Fi = Triforce, and the triforce isn't exactly small time. Fi is far from 'just a sharp sword'. She's repelled all sorts of magic, she's protected Link from shape shifting, time warping, tk, ect. She's also the blade of evil's bane. Not just sharp, powerful, and with a distaste for jackasses. This is not a weapon Kratos wants to get poked with.

Pardon my completely ignoring the 'stamina meter', I'm sure Kratos really struggles to lift doors. 😛 Gameplay mechanics are neat.

So, are you arguing Kratos can 2v1 here?

I'm not seeing the relevance.

None of that matters when Link has his arm torn off before he can use "Fi" in combat.

I'm not seeing the relevance.

None of that matters when Kratos gets killed by a Fi to the face or Pit spanking him while Nariko watches impotently before he can use his 'hands' in combat.

I never denied Pit beating Kratos.

Link is a non-factor though. By virtue of both Kratos and his partner vastly exceeding his abilities.

So Link and Pit win, and you're here why?

I'll be blunt here, though, you could put Fi in the hands of Trevor and she'd still be dangerous to Kratos.

Only non-factor in this thread is Nariko, have a feat for her I was previously unaware of?

The master sword was forged specificaly for demise and his hate. Ganon/dorf is a special case. Also the master sword could inly stop time when it was in the pedestal of time, which gives it direct contact with the sacred realm and all it's powers. Against anyone not demise related it's just a sword that can reflect magic. Kratos having no relatiob to the demon king should be unaffected by it.

The sword's power has nothing to do with Demise, lol. The sword's intended target is 'evil', not 'Demise'. Best of all, she's sentient, and capable of making distinctions of her own. For example the Twilight realm while not necessarily even evil, just dark, was subject to her power.

I'd also like to know where you got the idea any of the pedestals the sword has hung out in are connected to the sacred realm or have inherent power of their own, particularly on a planetary/country wide scale. It's not stated anywhere.

I reiterate, are you about to argue that Kratos can win? Answer this question in your next post. Getting bored of the avoidance.

Going to bed nao.

The pedestal of time is the final safegaurd that locks the sacred realm(where the triforce has been for hundreds of years) in OoT.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
The pedestal of time is the final safegaurd that locks the sacred realm(where the triforce has been for hundreds of years) in OoT.

The Master Sword was the final safeguard, and even if the pedestal of time were the important ingredient here, when the weakened master sword froze all of Hyrule and everything beyond it as far as we could see, it wasn't in the pedestal of time, it was in the basement of Hyrule Castle.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I reiterate, are you about to argue that Kratos can win? Answer this question in your next post. Getting bored of the avoidance.

Going to bed nao.

For real this time, lol. Night.