Originally posted by Robtard
In X2, he ripped apart what looked like a bank vault door. Iron Man would get crushed as if he were a tin can. Do we need to bring in his bridge feat?
Again, I'm not saying that he can't damage Iron-man's armor, just that I haven't seen anything to suggest he could render it useless in a matter of seconds.
And for the record, I believe Iron-man's armor is more durable than a bank vault door, unles such doors are able to take tank shells without damage.
Originally posted by Silent Masterwhat does durability have to do with Iron Man, a man in a metal suit, being ripped apart by a man who controls metal?
Again, I'm not saying that he can't damage Iron-man's armor, just that I haven't seen anything to suggest he could render it useless in a matter of seconds.And for the record, I believe Iron-man's armor is more durable than a bank vault door, unles such doors are able to take tank shells without damage.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Neither the train, the vehicles or a 60's era sub are anywhere near Iron-man's level of duability.Now, I'm not saying that he can't damage Iron-man's armor, just that I don't recall any feats to suggest he'd be able to render it useless in seconds.
The thing is though that Magneto doesn't really seem to distinguish between how durable the metal is. He manipulates it just the same, whether it be Adamantium or Iron he doesn't really seem to care. The thing that seems to matter most is the scope of the object he wishes to control.
I might have overhyped it abit by saying seconds, let me modify it to maybe 5-10 seconds before Iron Man is done, I don't think it has a huge importance because Iron Man will still not be able to contribute to the fight.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, I'm not saying that he can't damage Iron-man's armor, just that I haven't seen anything to suggest he could render it useless in a matter of seconds.And for the record, I believe Iron-man's armor is more durable than a bank vault door, unles such doors are able to take tank shells without damage.
Tony's head being crushed under helmet would take Magneto about a second and it would render him and his suit useless. Considering Magneto could apply part of the force he used to rip/lift/carry the GGB just to the small area of his helmet.
The door was a few feet thick of what was probably high grade steel. It actually was probably a blast door, considering it was in a secret government underground bunker.
Originally posted by Utrigita
The thing is though that Magneto doesn't really seem to distinguish between how durable the metal is. He manipulates it just the same, whether it be Adamantium or Iron he doesn't really seem to care. The thing that seems to matter most is the scope of the object he wishes to control.I might have overhyped it abit by saying seconds, let me modify it to maybe 5-10 seconds before Iron Man is done, I don't think it has a huge importance because Iron Man will still not be able to contribute to the fight.
Movie Magneto has never bent or broke adamantium, all he did to Wolverine's claws was pull them in different directions to inflict pain.
Originally posted by Robtard
Tony's head being crushed under helmet would take Magneto about a second and it would render him and his suit useless. Considering Magneto could apply part of the force he used to rip/lift/carry the GGB just to the small area of his helmet.The door was a few feet thick of what was probably high grade steel. It actually was probably a blast door, considering it was in a secret government underground bunker.
Can you show me any feats where Magneto actually crushes something that durable in a second?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Can you show me any feats where Magneto actually crushes something that durable in a second?
His greater feats allow him to do something which would be minor by comparison.
Thor was able to crush the suit's braces and then rip off the face-plate with utter ease, are you suggesting that Thor's strength in his hands surpasses Magneto's output when using metal as a medium?
Why are people arguing Magneto's abilities?
He twisted Adamantium. And "smelled it from a mile away"
He WILL bend Tony into a twisted pretzel and "arguably" send Mjorlnir through the other combatant's heads. As fast as he controlled the mercury balls when escaping the installation in X2.
Maybe Thor's control over Mjolnir overrides Magneto's influences but I would like to see anyone argue otherwise.
The OP regulates that Magneto can't control Ironman's armor so WHAT THE F!
He gets blasted in a few seconds.....kind of sad really.
So it's the Avengers versus Chronicle Kid. And they win eventually.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Why are people arguing Magneto's abilities?He twisted Adamantium. And "smelled it from a mile away"
He WILL bend Tony into a twisted pretzel and "arguably" send Mjorlnir through the other combatant's heads. As fast as he controlled the mercury balls when escaping the installation in X2.
Maybe Thor's control over Mjolnir overrides Magneto's influences but I would like to see anyone argue otherwise.
The OP regulates that Magneto can't control Ironman's armor so WHAT THE F!
He gets blasted in a few seconds.....kind of sad really.
So it's the Avengers versus Chronicle Kid. And they win eventually.
When did Magneto twist adamantium?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Movie Magneto has never bent or broke adamantium, all he did to Wolverine's claws was pull them in different directions to inflict pain.
Wouldn't that also be bending the Adamantium? Also recall what Magneto said to Wolverine "... That remarkable metal doesn't run through you entire body..." again he doesn't distingish between metal. For him one kinda Alloy is just the same as another kind, it's metal. That could also be seen with the Nuclear Sub, he tore the side of it to gain a entry as casually as he wiped out the convoy in their armored SUV's. It's metal all the same. The only thing that seems to matter is the size of the object he wishes to manipulate.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm suggesting that Magneto has zero feats of using that amount of power within a couple of seconds
-He bent Adamantium within a few seconds.
-He unleashed mercury influenced balls around a military installation and destroyed it within no time.
-His control of the truck and crew in X3 was pretty simple in regards to his ability to crush Ironman on a whim.
-His capturing of the entire X-men squad inside the Statue of Liberty showed insane strategical ability to capture multiple foes with metal and hold them in place in X1.
The fight takes place in Manhattan he's soaked in metal.
And I remember him twisting Wolverine's claws.
Originally posted by Robtard
He flexed the claws slightly, it's a matter of opinion whether he flexed the blades or he merely manipulated the joints.IMO, he flexed the blades, as what he said about adamantium implies [to me] that he was testing just how "remarkeble" it was.
I don't recall the metal being damaged afterwards.
Here's the scene:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7mrnm_x-men-magneto-takes-rouge_shortfilms#.UL-qBOTBGm4
It does appear to be more of the joint manipulation actually.