You don't see Sandman having trouble stopping that 60ish foot flying alien with a punch?
The Bi-Frost explosion.
You don't see Sandman having trouble stopping that 60ish foot flying alien with a punch?
The Bi-Frost explosion.
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, you people. "Loki took an explosion to the face!!!1!" Parker tanked a larger bomb to the face and was fine. Parker also took a pounding (no homo) from an 100+ foot Sandman and was still fighting after, he didn't lay on the floor quivering like a pansy from getting smashed.Comes down to simple maths:
Spider-Man is faster than Loki
Spider-Man is stronger than Loki.
Spider-Man is more agile than Loki.
Spider-Man has an early warning system; Loki doesn't.Spider-Man >Loki /thread
Spiderman is faster than Loki
Spiderman is more agile than Loki.
Spiderman has an early warning system.
But
Loki is stronger than Spiderman (Spidey has never trade blows with anyone as strong as Thor).
Loki is tougher than Spiderman (Spidey has never shown to be bullet proof).
And Loki has superior firepower and magics.
Originally posted by The Silent HeroOnce Spiderman closes distance Loki have to depend on h2h which Spidey is superior at. See his fight with Captain America for reference. Doc Ock has four arms, Lizard has his tail (even though he doesn't apply here), they can overwhelm Spiderman in a melee in a way in which Loki cannot.
Spidey better in h2h? I think you're confusing acrobatic skill with h2h skill. Loki is a trained warrior, for hundreds of years. Spidey has ZERO fight training. Loki gave Thor a good fight. Spidey has never fought anyone as strong or skilled as Thor. Every person Spidey has ever fought with were brawlers.
Doc Ock and Lizard may have extra limbs to their advantage, but neither are as strong, as durable, or as skilled as Loki... and look how Spidey struggled with them.
Originally posted by Robtard
Are you being dense on purpose?Normal sized Sandman was able to punch Spider-Man through an armoured truck. Now make him hundreds of feet tall.
Sandman can control sand. Him moving himself at hundreds of feet tall is not a feat of muscular strength but simply him manipulating sand.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Spiderman is faster than Loki
Spiderman is more agile than Loki.
Spiderman has an early warning system.But
Loki is stronger than Spiderman (Spidey has never trade blows with anyone as strong as Thor).
Loki is tougher than Spiderman (Spidey has never shown to be bullet proof).
And Loki has superior firepower and magics.
Trading punches doesn't mean Loki is near Thor's strength. We also saw what happened once Thor had enough of Loki's BS, Thor manhandled his ass. Spider-Man's strength feats shit all over Loki's.
Only when it comes to bullets. Spider-Man has many instances of tanking massive blunt force trauma, getting hit by a train, being slammed on by gigantic Sandman, being punched through an armoured truck etc. etc. etc.
Illusion trick gets countered by Spider-Sense and Spider-Man would have no trouble dodging the blast from his spear or knives, closing in and beating his ass silly.
Originally posted by Robtard
Trading punches doesn't mean Loki is near Thor's strength. Spider-Man's strength feats shit all over Loki's.Only when it comes to bullets. Spider-Man has many instances of tanking massive blunt force trauma, getting hit by a train, being slammed on by gigantic Sandman, being punched through an armoured truck.
Illusion trick gets countered by Spider-Sense ad Spider-Man would have no trouble dodging the blast from his spear or knives, closing in and beating his ass silly.
Trading punches maybe not, but blocking hits from Thor (and mjolnir) with his spear means that he needs to have comparable strength in order not to buckle. Meaning that Loki is still within Thor's strength range.
As for Illusion tricks, Spidey's sense only warns him when he's about to be attacked, so yeah I agree the illusions won't help Loki in attacking. However, it will make it more complicated for Spidey when he's the one on the offensive.
Making multiple illusions of Loki will make it difficult for Spidey to hit the right Loki. His spider sense won't tell him which is the real Loki if Loki isn't attacking. So the illusions aren't useless. At the very least, it will make it harder for Spidey to attack and counter attack.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You're assunming his strength scales with height, do you have any feats to back this up?
It's logic, not assumption. If it didn't, he couldn't move. Would the strength output of your body now be able to move you if you suddenly grew/weighed thousands of times more?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Trading punches maybe not, but blocking hits from Thor (and mjolnir) with his spear means that he needs to have comparable strength in order not to buckle. Meaning that Loki is still within Thor's strength range.As for Illusion tricks, Spidey's sense only warns him when he's about to be attacked, so yeah I agree the illusions won't help Loki in attacking. However, it will make it more complicated for Spidey when he's the one on the offensive.
Making multiple illusions of Loki will make it difficult for Spidey to hit the right Loki. His spider sense won't tell him which is the real Loki if Loki isn't attacking. So the illusions aren't useless. At the very least, it will make it harder for Spidey to attack and counter attack.
No, not "comparable", a weaker person can deflect a strike from a stronger.
One quick web area webs blasts an there goes that trick.
Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you don't have any strength feats to back up your speculation.
I have the film. But let's pretend a creature that is several hundred feet tall and whose fist are the size of buses only has the strength of a white fluffy rabbit and hit's no harder than a soft pillow being gently dropped, because it's fun to ignore logic.