Bane vs Agent 47
VS
Hand-to-hand fight to the death. Takes place here:
I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what Bane can do, but here's a hand-to-hand feat from 47 for those of you who haven't played the Hitman games or seen the movies.
That guy wasn't just any old musclehead, either; he was effectively a super soldier, who was given some serum that increased his strength and durability by a lot.
It's Bane without venom.
Physically is extremely debatable. Strength-wise, he's no doubt superior, but 47 is genetically enhanced to be superior to regular humans physically, so he's got a fairly large speed and agility advantage. Likewise, 47 is intellectually superior to the average human-- while he's not necessarily as smart as Bane, he's intelligent enough to see through any ruses or mind games Bane might throw his way.
And skill-wise... again, debatable. Sure, Bane has an effective striking/grappling style, but it's not like he's Batman. If anything, I think 47 is more skilled than Bane, given how easily he took down that super soldier as well as the fact that he's been trained since his childhood.
Originally posted by WarakiaThe problem is that Agent 47 doesn't have any feats to put him on that level. Bane isn't as skilled as Batman but he's not far off, meanwhile both have feats that put them leagues above 47 in every category, strength, speed, stamina, skill, intelligence, Bane is far above 47 in all categories based on actual feats.
It's Bane without venom.Physically is extremely debatable. Strength-wise, he's no doubt superior, but 47 is genetically enhanced to be superior to regular humans physically, so he's got a fairly large speed and agility advantage. Likewise, 47 is intellectually superior to the average human-- while he's not necessarily as smart as Bane, he's intelligent enough to see through any ruses or mind games Bane might throw his way.
And skill-wise... again, debatable. Sure, Bane has an effective striking/grappling style, but it's not like he's Batman. If anything, I think 47 is more skilled than Bane, given how easily he took down that super soldier as well as the fact that he's been trained since his childhood.
It won't even come down to intelligence, in a hand to hand fight Bane could casually walk up to 47, snap his neck and be done with it.
No, he couldn't. Every single time Bane has fought Batman, he's held his own because of his raw physical power. Not skill. If you put the two men on equal ground in terms of strength and durability, Batman would thrash Bane.
I just posted a video of 47 absolutely owning a genetically altered super-soldier capable of smashing through brick walls and flipping over cars, and you're saying he has no feats of skill on that level? Right... 😐
Originally posted by Warakia
No, he couldn't. Every single time Bane has fought Batman, he's held his own because of his raw physical power. Not skill. If you put the two men on equal ground in terms of strength and durability, Batman would thrash Bane.I just posted a video of 47 absolutely owning a genetically altered super-soldier capable of smashing through brick walls and flipping over cars, and you're saying he has no feats of skill on that level? Right... 😐
If Bane only had physical power over Batman then Bruce would steamroll him in every fight. Batman, Nightwing, even Tim Drake have steamrolled characters with modest superhuman strength and durability. In Nightwing's last series he beat the hell out of Blockbuster who had superhuman strenght and durability but no fighting skills. Batman demolished Solomon Grundy who had [despite flucation] is stronger and more durable than Bane is but guess what? He had no fighting skill
Bane can contend with Batman because of a combination of his strenght, durability AND skill. He lost in Legacy because Bruce has skill and speed over him.
You think 47 is impressive because he beat some Sanchez?? I've seen Bruce smash through brick, KGBeast has Superhuman stength and could demolish cars, Batman beat him and another superhuman character at the same time.
On top of that Sanchez doesn't have a single skill showing. 47 essentially killed a guy who had slight superhuman strenght and durability absolutely zero skill, Bruce steamrolled 10 of Grodd's cybernetic gorillas who already had superhuman strength that was further suplemented with cybernetic enhancements. Bruce beat 15 LOA Manbats who all had superhuman stats, weaponry and were actually trained assassins. Bruce fought 50 LOA Manbats who ambushed him, again superhuman stats and LOA training, Bruce crippled 30 of them before getting overwhelmed.
47 isn't in Bruce's league and he isn't in Bane's league
I have to agree with sCOURGE, 47 hasn't the H2H skills to contend with comic Bane's skills.
This is a physical confrontation and 47 without the latest game has next to no martial arts skills. He is a strategical murder technician.
With his advanced Agency satellite tech he is (in the earlier games) able to see all living people in his vicinity. He can see where they are facing and walking. Such a power allows 47 to sneak up on adversaries and tranquilize, suffocate, plant a bomb, or put a bullet into anyone he wishes.
It's Hitman's powerset and a simple one at that.
This is a H2H fight. And I admit as a great fan of the Hitman games. Bane WILL overwhelm 47 in physical combat quickly.
This is a spite thread really and it negates all of 47's skills in the process.
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
If Bane only had physical power over Batman then Bruce would steamroll him in every fight. Batman, Nightwing, even Tim Drake have steamrolled characters with modest superhuman strength and durability. In Nightwing's last series he beat the hell out of Blockbuster who had superhuman strenght and durability but no fighting skills. Batman demolished Solomon Grundy who had [despite flucation] is stronger and more durable than Bane is but guess what? He had no fighting skillBane can contend with Batman because of a combination of his strenght, durability AND skill. He lost in Legacy because Bruce has skill and speed over him.
You think 47 is impressive because he beat some Sanchez?? I've seen Bruce smash through brick, KGBeast has Superhuman stength and could demolish cars, Batman beat him and another superhuman character at the same time.
On top of that Sanchez doesn't have a single skill showing. 47 essentially killed a guy who had slight superhuman strenght and durability absolutely zero skill, Bruce steamrolled 10 of Grodd's cybernetic gorillas who already had superhuman strength that was further suplemented with cybernetic enhancements. Bruce beat 15 LOA Manbats who all had superhuman stats, weaponry and were actually trained assassins. Bruce fought 50 LOA Manbats who ambushed him, again superhuman stats and LOA training, Bruce crippled 30 of them before getting overwhelmed.
47 isn't in Bruce's league and he isn't in Bane's league
KGBeast was as strong as four men, he was a weakling compared to Sanchez. We're not talking about Nightwing or Batman lol, we're talking about Bane, who is slower, less agile and less skilled by quite a bit.
Yeah, there's no evidence that any of those guys were on Sanchez's level in terms of strength and durability. Nice try, but no.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Sanchez looks like a beefed up Danny Trejo.
Originally posted by the ninjak
This is a spite thread really and it negates all of 47's skills in the process.
Originally posted by WarakiaHe's more skilled than Nightwing is. If Nightwing was more skilled than Bane than Bane wouldn't have curbstomped in him 2 panels. I didn't say he's as skilled as Bruce, he's close which is absolutely true.
[B]No. Look at Batman's fights with Bane, you'll see Bane punching, kicking, tanking and grappling, all of which require brute strength and durability. He's moderately skilled, yes, but he is NOT in Batman's league in pure hand to hand skill. As I said, if you were to put Bane and Batman on equal ground physically, Bane would get absolutely dominated, because his skill set depends on brute strength.KGBeast was as strong as four men, he was a weakling compared to Sanchez. We're not talking about Nightwing or Batman lol, we're talking about Bane, who is slower, less agile and less skilled by quite a bit.
Yeah, there's no evidence that any of those guys were on Sanchez's level in terms of strength and durability. Nice try, but no.
You're logic makes no sense. You say Bruce is more skilled than Bane [which I agreed on but not by alot] none of Bruce's fights with Bane have ever been one sided.
You say that Nightwing is more skilled than Bane, he's faster and more agile too. Guess what? Bane steamrolled him in one page. So I guess Bane is more skilled then your giving him credit for...
Punching kicking and grappling? If you throw in nerve strikes that's practically all the realms of possibilities for offense when you attack someone? If you look at any skilled fighter, even Bruce, 90% of their offense comes down to punching kicking and grappling. What a ridiculous statement
You said that Sanchez was able to plow through brick and smash cars. KGBeast has done both of those, hell Batman has done the former. They aren't super human but the fact is they've matched Sanchez feat for feat when it comes to strength and both are much more skilled. Any of these characters would curbstomp Sanchez and any of them would curbstomp Agent 47 too.
Originally posted by Warakia
The rest of your post is meaningless since it basically ignores the last game, which I, obviously, am using as the basis of my argument. The concept of a "spite thread" is idiotic, by the way. So I'm supposed to be spiting these fictional characters? What?
You're using an accomplished comic book fighter who has defeated members of the Bat Family against a videogame character who has only recently showed any MA skills at all compared to his previous versions. And it's a fight based on a single scene in the new Hitman game.
Bane is a combat specialist and semi-genius whereas this Sanchez seems to be a brute.
When has 47 showed superhuman strength? He is just a clone made from the DNA of 5 madmen using the full potential of chromosomes in the human body.
47 was just smarter and more strategic than Sanchez.
He knew how to apply the pressure where it was needed.
Bane knows such knowledge. And this is an arena he loves. Cept has a crap load more experience.