Under no type of calculation could the midgard serpent be heavier than earth... Seriously. The earth bench press feat would be the best for even classic Thor let alone current. I can't see marvel giving Thor those who kind of ultra strength feats. Best I can see is them having him hold his own for a time with somebody else that may have the superior feats... Like a greenscar/nul situation.
He also failed to lift the Serpent on another occasion. Thor's absolute best strength feats are fairly average for someone like Superman. IIRC narration once stated Hercules was capable of bench pressing a planet and Thor matched him, although that could be hyperbole. I would be shocked if I saw Thor lift that much weight tbh.
Originally posted by leonidasI agree somewhat with this as in Strength isn't normally Thor's first avenue when he goes high end.
imo it would be more out of character for thor to perform that type of feat than it would be for kal. i'd be surprised if i saw him do it and i think it would raise more eyebrows and questions of consistency. dcnu clark has been slowly building feats so i don't think this scene stunned me like i guess some were. maybe because there has been precedent for this in dc before.
Mostly his biggest High End feats tend to be him calling down extremely powerful blasts or high end absorption.
Where as Superman generally brings forth high end strength/speed feats cause that's what he is known for.
But Thor is still supposed to be incredibly strong so I wouldn't really bat an eye lash if he did something like what DcNU Superman did.
Originally posted by Magnon
It would take about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 Thors to lift the Earth.So yeah, a single Thor doesn't come very close to doing it.
Wait, so you're arguing that Superman is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger than Thor?
This is a pretty retaaaded feat if it's canon. I mean the narrator saying they're "generating enough pressure to knock the whole planet out of orbit"?!? Thor and Herc aren't even pounding each other. The pressure is coming from their one-armed clasp. That's fukkin astronomical! If that's not planetary strength I don't know what is.
Thor is not that type of character, Thor is all around versatile character more than Superman, but wouldn't be surprise if Thor does it, it's within his powers and abilities, Marvel doesn't really want too get into strength contest that's not what they are about majority of the time, they will if fits their purpose of the story. Thor lifted the World Engine, Midgard Serpent, resisted the weight of scores of planets, it can be done, but that doesn't mean Superman is stronger than Thor, if he is it wouldn't be by that much for us to notice, they are peers.
IMO Thor, Gladiator, Captain Marvel, Black Adam, Hulk, Hercules can do it, but that's just me!!
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I know it's still not planetary level, but during Siege the Thunderbolts stealth group commented on how everything in Asgard seemed so much heavier than normal. One example they gave were doors. Grizzly who was the strong man of that group complained by saying "Are all the doors here minimum 5 tons? Jeez!!" Besides the land mass, the building and probably many other objects in Asgard were made of very heavy material. Understandable because an ordinary fodder god of Asgard is easily a class 20. Just wanted to add that little tidbit.
Great point, actuallu class 30 and your average Asgardian weighs around 400+ and up, Thor is 640, Sif 435, BRB 495, Loki (Classic) 525, Odin and Bor 650, Buri (Tiwaz) 2216...
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
This is a pretty retaaaded feat if it's canon. I mean the narrator saying they're "generating enough pressure to knock the whole planet out of orbit"?!? Thor and Herc aren't even pounding each other. The pressure is coming from their one-armed clasp. That's fukkin astronomical! If that's not planetary strength I don't know what is.
Thats planteary, if you can affect a planet axis just by arm wrestling that's ridicolus planetary strength... It's within Thor ability to do it, but it wont happen that not his character.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
This is a pretty retaaaded feat if it's canon. I mean the narrator saying they're "generating enough pressure to knock the whole planet out of orbit"?!? Thor and Herc aren't even pounding each other. The pressure is coming from their one-armed clasp. That's fukkin astronomical! If that's not planetary strength I don't know what is.
Originally posted by SamZED
So is that canon or not?
Originally posted by Starscream M
why are all the most impressive thor feats from decades ago?writers no longer depict thor like they did back in the 70s 80s
use modern thor feats and stop using feats that even Marvel would say no longer represent modern thor
As long as the feats are canon, they can use whatever feats they want.
Generally, Thor's best strength feats, imo, are the ones where he's matching someone in strength or overpowering them. He's not really a lifting/pushing/bare handed punch kind of guy, especially nowadays. If you think his older feats "don't count" by virtue of being old, well, that's your prerogative I guess.
That said, Thor's power output/striking power is generally what writers will focus on in terms of his power.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankthats not MY prerogative...its common sense and marvel's prerogative
Generally, Thor's best strength feats, imo, are the ones where he's matching someone in strength or overpowering them. He's not really a lifting/pushing/bare handed punch kind of guy, especially nowadays. If you think his older feats "don't count" by virtue of being old, well, that's your prerogative I guess.That said, Thor's power output/striking power is generally what writers will focus on in terms of his power.
its clear to any fan that thor has changed and evolved as a character as marvel has evolved as a company
just because they don't do reboots don't mean their characters retain all attributes and feats they've done decades ago
Originally posted by Starscream M
thats not MY prerogative...its common sense and marvel's prerogativeits clear to any fan that thor has changed and evolved as a character as marvel has evolved as a company
just because they don't do reboots don't mean their characters retain all attributes and feats they've done decades ago
Canon is canon. *shrug*
Outside of random ridiculous high end feats, Thor, as have most Marvel characters, has actually gotten more powerful over time.
I will agree that pure physical strength is a secondary concern when it comes to putting over why Thor is "mighty".
Originally posted by abhilegend
Shared feat brah.
And? It doesn't make it less impressive. Even though it's a shared feat, he is exerting equal force to Herc which makes it much less muddled. Don't forget, Hulk's HotM indirect planet busting feat is considered one of the most incredibly impressive feats of strength in all comics. In the end it's shared since Betty was on the receiving end of that impact as was Hulk to her.