Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What? War Machine did not "struggle" with IF, once Danny told him to stop, Rhodey one-shotted him. Iron Man was using a very old armor and still beat "Lord Rand" uhuhIM was also facing an old Iron Fist. And while you're right about Stark using an older armor, the funny thing is some of his best feats happened using old tech, like beating Hulk and doing considerably better against Namor then he did in that Illuminati throwdown..
As for War Machine vs Rand, it was also Dr. Stranges attack being channeled through his armor, combined with Rand pausing for a moment as he struggled with his possession..
Classic WM possessed by Loki's spirit gave Thor a good fight. He has stealth and ghost modes now, among other upgrades.Sounds interesting. Did it happen in a Thor comic?
[quote]There is CIS, but there are also full capacity and basic knowledge rules. If he knows he faces a powerful opponent, he'll take off the blindfold pretty quickly.
That works both ways, though.
And Bill has his own range of abilities. Something as simple as throwing his hammer and letting it batter the lesser characters into submission might work (It was a favorite tactic against Stardust), and he has considerable energy attacks..
Originally posted by cdtm
Sounds interesting. Did it happen in a Thor comic?
Yes.
Originally posted by cdtm
That works both ways, though.And Bill has his own range of abilities. Something as simple as throwing his hammer and letting it batter the lesser characters into submission might work (It was a favorite tactic against Stardust), and he has considerable energy attacks..
He has, but he's hopelessly outnumbered here. All at the same time.
Originally posted by cdtm
IM was also facing an old Iron Fist. And while you're right about Stark using an older armor, the funny thing is some of his best feats happened using old tech, like beating Hulk and doing considerably better against Namor then he did in that Illuminati throwdown..As for War Machine vs Rand, it was also Dr. Stranges attack being channeled through his armor, combined with Rand pausing for a moment as he struggled with his possession..
Yes, but Tony had more upgrades than Iron Fist. Dozens of new armors, Extremis, Extremis +...
Pretty sure he was using newer suits against Hulk and Namor than the "nose" armor. His Sub-Mariner armor controlled by AI was killing Namor... underwater. Just saying 😛
I didn't know about Strange's involvement, I stand corrected. Anyway, WM clearly didn't want to fight Danny.
Originally posted by cdtm
Looked up Morlun's wiki..He survived nuke and ripped through an adamantium net? O_O
If he's that powerful, how did Spidey fight him? The wiki makes it sound like they were trading punches...
Vibranium nukes.
Spidey written by Straczynski was pretty damn powerful, but Morlun was still toying with him. Parker had to resort to using a plot device to beat him.
Originally posted by armedforbattle
I still don't understand the title of this thread."Beta Ray Bill Vs Everything"
That doesn't make any sense, but then again nothing BigC does makes ssnse
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If full capacity goes both ways then brb wrecks. Massive lightning bolt that covers the field will incapacitate almost all of them. Only 4 or 5 of them even really matter and they are not taking out brb. I know Thors recent woeful performances have brought down the stock of the Thor franchise a bit but brb is a legit upper herald level character with the feats to back it up. Only pis could make him lose this.
Bill wins easily. The cage would be to crowded for the team to maneuver effectively, the fliers would be significantly handicapped. A couple lightning blasts will cull the weakest links such as Elektra, Batman, Cap, Venom, etc. The rest will be hard pressed to avoid a flurry of full power hammer strikes.
team can def win, especially if wm and im absorb some large energy attack (which im has done a few times in the past). if you really feel morlun is at adamantium ripping levels they could def be a problem. bill would need to go very high level to take them all out. one massive shockwave against the adamantium could do a LOT of damage to almost everyone.
Originally posted by leonidasIron Man is one of the more competent and consistent energy absorbers in comics. Beta Ray Bill using something like lightning would not be a good idea. Not unless it was upper end "would-just-about-roast-anything" type of lightning. And while Beta Ray Bill doesn't exactly suffer from the whole "must-ne'er-harm-mortals" schtick, he isn't exactly a callous murderer. He's met the Avengers and even knows Spider-Man.
team can def win, especially if wm and im absorb some large energy attack (which im has donea few times in the pasta lot even through to the present). if you really feel morlun is at adamantium ripping levels they could def be a problem. bill would need to go very high level to take them all out. one massive shockwave against the adamantium could do a LOT of damage to almost everyone.
Originally posted by ODGBill doesn't need lightning attack for IM and WM, just for the weaker fighters. Storm breaker will be more than enough to take them out, especially considering the limited mobility they face from being in this small of an arena.
Iron Man is one of the more competent and consistent energy absorbers in comics. Beta Ray Bill using something like lightning would not be a good idea. Not unless it was upper end "would-just-about-roast-anything" type of lightning. And while Beta Ray Bill doesn't exactly suffer from the whole "must-ne'er-harm-mortals" schtick, he isn't exactly a callous murderer. He's met the Avengers and even knows Spider-Man.