Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah. It's just hurtful. 🙁😄
The writer intent was clear with the feat. The book has been re-titled "Indestructible" Hulk, because Banner (and most importantly Mark Waid) believes the Hulk to be literally Indestructible. He says this in the very 1st issue. What better way of setting up this status quo for the rest of his run then having him shrug off and power through something that can reshape/"melt" Adamantium. Mad Thinker throwing the Ultron reference in there should be enough without having to be spoon fed every detail.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
It's true though. If you dislike a character and aren't very informed on them why comment on said character from thread to thread? 😕The writer intent was clear with the feat. The book has been re-titled "Indestructible" Hulk, because Banner (and most importantly Mark Waid) believes the Hulk to be literally Indestructible. He says this in the very 1st issue. What better way of setting up this status quo for the rest of his run then having him shrug off and power through something that can reshape/"melt" Adamantium. Mad Thinker throwing the Ultron reference in there should be enough without having to be spoon fed every detail.
Indeed. If anyone cares to read the scans of the scenes, they depict The Mad Thinker saying that his tech was inspired by Ultron's QMs which are used to soften/mould Adamantium for "repairs and upgrades", that "if it can melt metal" (continuation of thought from previous panel, then he wonders, what might it do to skin and bones - the latter thought is depicted, as he is blasting Hulk with it.
It's clear (in the non-ambiguous sense of words on paper joining together to say something) that The Mad Thinker was of the opinion that his tech, would melt Adamantium and that therefore it should prove very effective against Hulk.
Now, as I said before, this is The Mad Thinker - One of Marvel Earth's premier intellects - he's not given to over estimating himself, ala Osborn, and he has in the not too distant past been part of a group that beat ALL the premier intellects on Marvel Earth.
So, his estimation of a device's capabilities are not an _ambiguous_ indicator, but a clear description thereof.
And again, as I said, Hulk's been depicted as more durable than Adamantium before. So the precedent is there.
yeah, i think it's clear that the thinker thought the blasts could melt adamantium and so should kill hulk. imo it might be seen as a pretty powerful example of resisting matter manip, maybe? the only way to reshape adamantium is to alter it molecularly. regardless, it was a pretty impressive feat. at least imho.
as far as the thread--with the way hulk has been portrayed recently, and given the stips of the thread, i wouldn't be surprised if he at least damaged everything on that list. 5 full minutes, no defence mounted? i think it would be even more assured if he thought someone he loved were inside each and if he didn't break through they would die. there has been a clear shift in hulk's strength of late. he has always been marvel's paragon of strength, but it seems there has certainly been a reaffirmation of that lately (and i for one am happy about it). unlike that thor pressing the earth thread, i really would NOT be shocked by anything this latest version of hulk does.
on a slightly different topic--i already VERY much like the direction waid is heading in. seems.....obvious to me in retrospect. hulk breaks, banner creates. intuitive, but really never so clearly stated and depicted. i think it maximizes the potential for BOTH halves of a classic character. i'm pretty excited about it.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're daydreaming. Wolverine will always be there to remind Hulk he's not more durable than adamantium 😉
Anyway, it's difficult to take a character seriously if he's regularly being palmed by other - male - characters and having his butt complimented.
Makes you wonder exactly what it is, that he's the best at.
Originally posted by leonidas
imo it might be seen as a pretty powerful example of resisting matter manip, maybe?
Yeah, that's what I said in the other thread.
Originally posted by janus77
Nah, Hulk's already ripped him apart in multimedia!Anyway, it's difficult to take a character seriously if he's regularly being palmed by other - male - characters and having his butt complimented.
Makes you wonder exactly what it is, that he's the best at.
It's hard to take a character seriously if he LITERALLY jerks off THOR villains 😬
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
For second there you had me thinking something really weird had been going on at Marvel.
That scan taken out of context is not weird enough for you? 😛 Hehe.
Originally posted by googol
No, because he has tanked Hulk´s attacks for decades ?... 😕classic savage hulk has dented/damaged primary adamantium
classic savage and recent WWH have not been able to hurt/scratch juggernaut
Been retconned to secondary adamantium.
Banner stated adamantium is unbreakable, even for WWH and Skaar.
Hulk damaged his helmet and so did Wolverine, so you're not right.
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, i think it's clear that the thinker thought the blasts could melt adamantium and so should kill hulk. imo it might be seen as a pretty powerful example of resisting matter manip, maybe? the only way to reshape adamantium is to alter it molecularly. regardless, it was a pretty impressive feat. at least imho.as far as the thread--with the way hulk has been portrayed recently, and given the stips of the thread, i wouldn't be surprised if he at least damaged everything on that list. 5 full minutes, no defence mounted? i think it would be even more assured if he thought someone he loved were inside each and if he didn't break through they would die. there has been a clear shift in hulk's strength of late. he has always been marvel's paragon of strength, but it seems there has certainly been a reaffirmation of that lately (and i for one am happy about it). unlike that thor pressing the earth thread, i really would NOT be shocked by anything this latest version of hulk does.
on a slightly different topic--i already VERY much like the direction waid is heading in. seems.....obvious to me in retrospect. hulk breaks, banner creates. intuitive, but really never so clearly stated and depicted. i think it maximizes the potential for BOTH halves of a classic character. i'm pretty excited about it.
Good post.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That scan taken out of context is not weird enough for you? 😛 Hehe.Been retconned to secondary adamantium.
Banner stated adamantium is unbreakable, even for WWH and Skaar.
Hulk damaged his helmet and so did Wolverine, so you're not right.
No, the helmet's never been as invulnerable as Juggernaut.
Originally posted by cdtm
No, the helmet's never been as invulnerable as Juggernaut.
That's true, I'm just correcting goo who said Hulk never even scratched Juggy. He should've been more precise in that post. Oh, and Hulk hurt him just fine, Cain still registers pain, even got the wind knocked out of him.
Originally posted by googol
Feral didnt draw blood at all, all you see is some lines.. that is if you believe Feral Claws>>>Wolverine claws
Please. It's not like motion lines look. And if you were familiar with McFarlane's work at all, you wouldn't even question it.