Originally posted by Sh3nG L0nG
What's the context in both? Any capable reader should understand that unless the plot requires it, none of the characters you mentioned should struggle lifting a plane of all things.
I agree with you. Direct comparisons are much greater then isolated feats in this regard.
You have to look at the "whole" picture. Good post.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm not talking about Lower Strength feats. I'm talking about low showings, none of which happened in the DC books this week.There was no indication that he was having trouble with the aircraft carrier, even though it would have been tough to lift with where he was holding on to it.
So no, not a low showing.
I really hope you're not going to make me repeat myself.
Then there's the confusion. I was talking about a lower strength feat.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Is it as impressive as pressing a planet? No.Is it a low showing because of that? No.
What's the problem?
No problem. Just notice a different power level for the story.
My comment was not for the OP Pr? It was towards this statement.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
I might be in the minority but I hope he doesn't regain his full speed based powers, it makes flash less special.
His speed will fluctuate like his strength depending on the story or more importantly direct comparison feats. While flash will be much more "consistent" with his speed I imagine nothing wrong with that since that is all his power set pretty much.
Philo being a big supe fan took that as attack on one of his favorite characters I imagine.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
No problem. Just notice a different power level for the story.My comment was not for the OP Pr? It was towards this statement.
His speed will fluctuate like his strength depending on the story or more importantly direct comparison feats. While flash will be much more "consistent" with his speed I imagine nothing wrong with that since that is all his power set pretty much.
Philo being a big supe fan took that as attack on one of his favorite characters I imagine.
What power level?
Superman, like any character, is not always going to have his highest feats in every book.
Originally posted by carver9
Numerous of ways. Hitting him the head with his hammer repeatedly...blasting him, etc, etc...I don't see how he would lose.
Although Thor can win but under these circumstances...it would be hardly. Thor has had major difficulty at times with Gladiator and Hyperion. But this fight has starting point circumstances that favor Supes more IMO.
Under the OP's stipulations its going to be very difficult for Thor to win if he's going for the God blast initially. That takes time......while Supes using his speed doesn't take to much time. Now he did say Thor can use his most exotic attacks besides the GB. So it would be interesting to see him use his heat seeking hammer that turned Hyperion super small. But Thor has never used that attack to my knowledge again????
That attack may not even exist no more for current Thor. Anyone know?
Originally posted by -Pr-
What power level?Superman, like any character, is not always going to have his highest feats in every book.
Since when do we go by highest feat? Its about the average and constant feat. That's why Supermans speed won't make the Flash speed look useless. They'll still use it in different ways and at different levels I imagine.
Unless you believe Superman will use it better and more consistent then Flash?
Originally posted by carver9
Numerous of ways. Hitting him the head with his hammer repeatedly...blasting him, etc, etc...I don't see how he would lose.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Since when do we go by highest feat? Its about the average and constant feat. That's why Supermans speed won't make the Flash speed look useless. They'll still use it in different ways and at different levels I imagine.Unless you believe Superman will use it better and more consistent then Flash?
I'm not sure I'm following you.
Flash is faster than Superman; that can't really be argued. He also can do more with his speed than Superman can.
What does any of this have to do with the aircraft carrier or Vulko?
Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm not sure I'm following you.Flash is faster than Superman; that can't really be argued. He also can do more with his speed than Superman can.
What does any of this have to do with the aircraft carrier or Vulko?
Different portrayal of power level. They'll do that with Supes speed even much more so then his strength IMO.
I don't think that poster has to worry about Flash speed looking useless in comparison to Supes.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Different portrayal of power level. They'll do that with Supes speed even much more so then his strength IMO.I don't think that poster has to worry about Flash speed looking useless in comparison to Supes.
When are they portraying his power level differently? There was no indication in Aquaman or JL that they were writing him weaker that I saw.
Him not using his max powers in every issue doesn't mean he's been weakened.
If him struggling with that ship and with the help of another big name like Wonderwoman doesn't prescribe to you as lower strength showing in comparison to pressing planet weight for 5 days easily without so much as a struggling portrayal.
If there's not a difference to you then I don't know what is Pr? To make that scene consistent with his earth feat. " I "would have had them both lift it....check...they both did that. And hold it up without a struggle of any type especially since its both of them. No straining face expression like it was shown. And know grunting noise that was made like it was shown. It wasn't shown to be done super easy for him and on top of that with help.
Don't get me wrong it's still impressive but there is a distinction in that feat towards his other non help planet moving for 5 days. If you don't think there is a bit of a difference, well then I don't know how else to convince you.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
If him struggling with that ship and with the help of another big name like Wonderwoman doesn't prescribe to you as lower strength showing in comparison to pressing planet weight for 5 days easily without so much as a struggling portrayal.If there's not a difference to you then I don't know what is Pr? To make that scene consistent with his earth feat. " I "would have had them both lift it....check...they both did that. And hold it up without a struggle of any type especially since its both of them. No straining face expression like it was shown. And know grunting noise that was made like it was shown. It wasn't shown to be done super easy for him and on top of that with help.
Don't get me wrong it's still impressive but there is a distinction in that feat towards his other non help planet moving for 5 days. If you don't think there is a bit of a difference, well then I don't know how else to convince you.
Who says he was struggling?
Again, just because he doesn't lift up the tanker with one hand, troll Wonder Woman and then toss it in to the ocean doesn't make him weaker.
You're reading way too much in to a feat that was designed purely for plot purposes.
This is the same Superman that moved the planet, and the feat isn't embarrassing in the slightest, nor is it a low showing.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Who says he was struggling?Again, just because he doesn't lift up the tanker with one hand, troll Wonder Woman and then toss it in to the ocean doesn't make him weaker.
You're reading way too much in to a feat that was designed purely for plot purposes.
This is the same Superman that moved the planet, and the feat isn't embarrassing in the slightest, nor is it a low showing.