Yeah, hate is high for Palpatine. Probably because even after all the wanked up Sith, he still holds the title of most powerful. And he is the original Master of the Dark Side 😛
Anyways, the thing about Zannah's sorcery was that he knew how to do it, and therefore how to resist it. How does Vitiate mind f*ck people? If Bane knows how he does so, he has a chance of resisting it.
And I agree with the assessment that Vitiate has about 3 seconds, tops, to win this fight, However, I lean towards him being able to do that.
Originally posted by Nephthys
When Kaan attempted to influence Banes mind Bane almost literally laughed at his attempt. He also resisted Zannah's fear-based sorcery.
- Kaan is an absolute joke in comparison.
- Zannah's telepathic abilites are no where near as developed as that of Vitiate.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I was curious to see if people would dismiss Vitiate for his poor lightsaber and speed feats against Bane as they do Sidious. Question answered I guess.
Speed is now turning in to another overrated aspect in this forum. Vitiate have fought and defeated some very powerful and talented adversaries in combat; speed did jack for the victims.
Originally posted by Pwned
Yeah, hate is high for Palpatine. Probably because even after all the wanked up Sith, he still holds the title of most powerful. And he is the original Master of the Dark Side 😛
In a recent 'real world perspective' based book from Pablo, no Sith Lord have been declared as most powerful. Understand what this means?
Palpatine have been declared most powerful in sources which do not involve Plagueis and Vitiate. The latter two have also been declared as most powerful Sith Lords in 'in-universe perspective' based sources.
Therefore, your point is moot.
Originally posted by Pwned
Anyways, the thing about Zannah's sorcery was that he knew how to do it, and therefore how to resist it. How does Vitiate mind f*ck people? If Bane knows how he does so, he has a chance of resisting it.
Originally posted by Pwned
And I agree with the assessment that Vitiate has about 3 seconds, tops, to win this fight, However, I lean towards him being able to do that.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I agree. I was just displaying his feats.
Of-course, people can highlight Bane's feats in this thread. However, as good as Bane is, Vitiate is on a whole new league.
Originally posted by L30nidas
Look guys... Bane is my favorite sith of all time. However, I must admit that Vitiate is way more powerful.
Originally posted by ares834
Hmmm.... Good point.If he can resist Vitate's TP, and you just gave some good evidence, he wins.
Kaan and Zannah hold no candle to Vitiate either.
Originally posted by TheOneOfMortis
So how comes Zannah did not live up to his potential? She has one of the best midi counts in the entire history I think.
In a nuetral setting, I think Bane can defeat Zannah.
Yeah but in imo she mever really lvied up to her feats that she did in the comics, like when she killed the jedi knights and protected the planet from the thought bom, all while ten years old and without training - fast forward ten eyars and with sith training, she should ahve t keast been starkiller level imo.
Tell me about it. She goes from granting others Force powers, levitating, blocking the Thought Bomb and Banes planet-wide ritual, slaughtering Jedi, vaporizing her cousins arm, all instintively without any training whatsoever, to being worn out by one use of Force Fear and being a complete pansy in lightsaber combat.
I think the only credit given to Zannah was the back-ended compliment of her defeating Bane when he tried to dominate her and crush her mind so that he could take her body.
She's definitely a character whose abilities should have been explored more. She basically became Bane's errand girl in the second novel. Star Wars would have gone no where had Vader been portrayed as such a lowly apprentice.
I don't think Bane could necessarily survive Vitiate's mind tricks, but clearly could he attack the Emperor with such ferocity in the Force and with sabers that he is unable to make a concerted effort, he could take the day.
Originally posted by jadams3928
As stated in the Revan thread, Bane gets utterly destroyed by Vitiate's force storm/force lightning. I noticed Vitiate has a variant of force lightning consisting of a single bolt, yet it took down Revan, as well as Tol Braga's team.
Revan only failed to block it because he attempted to absorb it. By contrast, the Jedi Knight casually blocks it with his lightsaber. Now, I know this guys is, according to some, the second coming. However, I can't think of anything that would suggest he is physically stronger than Bane.
I think overall, Bane is the more powerful combatant. His lightsaber skills are great, his Force Powers are great, and his smarts are great.
...However, Vitiate still takes this. I wouldn't say it's that bad of an own, I mean, Revan did pretty well in his battle with Vitiate--I believe Bane would do better. Pretty good fight, guys.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
He almost died when his own lighting came against him. Nothing says that in normal circumstances he couldn't defend against it.Does anyone have any saber abilities for Vitiate? Everything mentioned seems to mainly be about him dominating minds and such.
Vitiate's saber feats are garbage, he got disarmed by a saber throw from Meetra Surik.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Sexism, most likely.
This is likely, even Meetra Surik the Mary Sue of SWOTOR II, got the dirt treatment powerscale wise. From defeating villains that by all rights should shit on almost anyone in the verse, to being Revan's tote. Not just being made into Revan's subordinate, but being on a different level power level.