Weight lifting competition

Started by zopzop8 pages

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Not everything is so easy to separate like that, Zop.

In real life AND in comics, actions take place even in fights that serve as reasonable guides as to how strong character X is versus character Y.

Here, I'll be sightly uncharacteristic of myself in the interest of time ...

A sincere "Thank you" to the poster ODG for posting the following in his Hulk Respect Thread ...

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Blob
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Savage Hulk vs Blob and Unus, from Marvel Fanfare #7:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlob01MarvelFanfare7.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlob02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlob03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlob04.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlob05.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlob06.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlob07.jpg [/B]


I'm missing the Blob lifting feat?

Originally posted by carver9
But overall, you don't think Thing is stronger than everyone here? You are just going by what's been shown onpanel concerning lifting fts?

That's all we can measure their lifting strength by, what's shown on panel.

Thing may not be the most POWERFUL person in the thread, but going by on panel lifting feats, he got the best ones (out of anyone in this thread).

Originally posted by zopzop
I'm missing the Blob lifting feat?

No you're not.

The purpose of showing that was not to show that Blob can lift heavy objects.

The point of that was to show that, even without Blob lifting heavy objects (or Hulk himself lifting any noteworthy heavy objects besides Blob), it is still possible to make the reasonable determination that Hulk is physically stronger than Blob is.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
No you're not.

The purpose of showing that was not to show that Blob can lift heavy objects.

The point of that was to show that, even without Blob lifting heavy objects (or Hulk himself lifting any noteworthy heavy objects besides Blob), it is still possible to make the reasonable determination that Hulk is physically stronger than Blob is.


Those scans showed Hulk is physically stronger than the Blob because he lifted and tossed the Blob around like a ragdoll, despite Blob's best efforts to remain in place.

Those scans were lifting feats for Hulk because he LIFTED the Blob multiple times.

Blob did look pretty strong there. Hulk punched Blob sqare in the face after taking repeated blows from Blob then Blob knocked Hulk on his @ss.

Originally posted by zopzop
Even assuming we can take anything published in Female Deadpool's (aka She Hulk) comic seriously, that doesn't help Red She Hulk and Thundra.

That would also make She Hulk stronger than Hulk, Thor, and Hercules. 🙄

Jen WAS stronger than Hercules during most of that story arc, Zop.

That's what the armwrestling scene was about.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14125469

Logically, given the near-exact equality of strength Hercules and Thor seemed to share back then, Jen was, also, indeed, stronger than Thor.

I don't where you're getting "stronger than Hulk" from, though.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Blob did look pretty strong there. Hulk punched Blob sqare in the face after taking repeated blows from Blob then Blob knocked Hulk on his @ss.

Juggerman, this is a "olympic style weight lifting competition". Meaning you have to lift heavy weights not win or put on a good showing in a H2H fight.

This is "olympic style weight lifting competition" :
YouTube video
This what Mshinu wanted and what I attempted to provide using lifting feats from the various contestants.

Not this :
YouTube video
This is what the Blob/Hulk fight is (in terms of what Blob did and what you are talking about).

@ bluewaterrider
She-Hulk, like Deadpool, comics are bullsh|t, even by comic standards. So unless she did something that over the top outside her joke comic, I'm not impressed by her.

I've seen a scan where Doc Samon was only lifting 25 tons. I also saw a scan stating Colossus can lift hundreds of tons. To me that is more accurate than showing scans of lifting objects that we had no idea how much they weighed.

Anybody have that scan of the very recent Fantastic Four issue where Thing and She-Hulk topped out pressing 85 tons?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I've seen a scan where Doc Samon was only lifting 25 tons. I also saw a scan stating Colossus can lift hundreds of tons. To me that is more accurate than showing scans of lifting objects that we had no idea how much they weighed.

"Stating" means very little unless it's backed up on panel with something concrete.

And where is this scan of Doc Samson lifting only 25 tons? It better not be an inaccurate Handbook entry (the corrected ones confirm he's AT least CL75 and the most recent one has him CL100) or when he had really short hair.

Originally posted by zopzop
"Stating" means very little unless it's backed up on panel with something concrete.

And where is this scan of Doc Samson lifting only 25 tons? It better not be an inaccurate Handbook entry (the corrected ones confirm he's AT least CL75 and the most recent one has him CL100) or when he had really short hair.

It's better than assuming how much a character is lifting.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
It's better than assuming how much a character is lifting.

What are you talking about. On panel, Thing (then Doc and/or Colossus) have the best lifting feats out of anyone in the original post, unless I've missed a lifting feat by someone on that list.

I've actually attempted to provide scans that relate to what the OP said. You've done.......nothing. Where is this scan of Doc Samson only lifting 25 tons? What other lifting feats does Colossus have that I haven't already mentioned (the pillar vs Gladiator and supporting the landing spaceship during Secret Wars)?

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Jen WAS stronger than Hercules during most of that story arc, Zop.

That's what the armwrestling scene was about.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14125469

Logically, given the near-exact equality of strength Hercules and Thor seemed to share back then, Jen was, also, indeed, stronger than Thor.

I don't where you're getting "stronger than [b]Hulk" from, though. [/B]

Jen was ampped doing that, if i remeber right that is why she was wearing that stupid suit to contain the power, Also was that immortal Hercules or mortal huge power difference

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Jen was ampped doing that, if i remeber right that is why she was wearing that stupid suit to contain the power, Also was that immortal Hercules or mortal huge power difference

It was immortal Hercules.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Anybody have that scan of the very recent Fantastic Four issue where Thing and She-Hulk topped out pressing 85 tons?

Originally posted by Mshinu

Thank you for that scan. Seems to me SHE HULK topped off at 85 tons, Thing was down for more.

Originally posted by zopzop
What are you talking about. On panel, Thing (then Doc and/or Colossus) have the best lifting feats out of anyone in the original post, unless I've missed a lifting feat by someone on that list.

I've actually attempted to provide scans that relate to what the OP said. You've done.......nothing. Where is this scan of Doc Samson only lifting 25 tons? What other lifting feats does Colossus have that I haven't already mentioned (the pillar vs Gladiator and supporting the landing spaceship during Secret Wars)?

None of your examples really prove anything. You're speculating on how much they are lifting. Most lifting feats are ambiguous. That scan shows She-Hulk lifting 85 tons, that scan states Samson can lift 25 tons and that scan states Colossus can lift hundreds of tons. No speculation required.

BTW that pillar that Colossus lifted wasn't that big. Might have weighed 3 tons.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
None of your examples really prove anything. You're speculating on how much they are lifting. Most lifting feats are ambiguous. That scan shows She-Hulk lifting 85 tons, that scan states Samson can lift 25 tons and that scan states Colossus can lift hundreds of tons. No speculation required.

BTW that pillar that Colossus lifted wasn't that big. Might have weighed 3 tons.


You haven't posted a scan of anything (let alone Doc Samson related) so we can see it in context.

That pillar Colossus lifted was composed of solid stone. It would weigh a lot more than 3 tons. Irregardless, Thing is the winner going by ON PANEL lifting displays. So far, Doc Samson (lifting an entire building from it's foundation) is second.

EDIT :
Wow that pillar is a lot smaller than I remembered it, still it was solid stone.

Colossus is stronger than Warpath and Rhino.

Originally posted by zopzop
You haven't posted a scan of anything (let alone Doc Samson related) so we can see it in context.

That pillar Colossus lifted was composed of solid stone. It would weigh a lot more than 3 tons. Irregardless, Thing is the winner going by ON PANEL lifting displays. So far, Doc Samson (lifting an entire building from it's foundation) is second.

EDIT :
Wow that pillar is a lot smaller than I remembered it, still it was solid stone.

But at the end of the day you're still guessing. And that pillar isn't worth bringing up.